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<blockquote data-quote="Kristin251" data-source="post: 1012841" data-attributes="member: 240838"><p>Thanks Dave for your thorough explanation.</p><p>as for me, I take one unit of Novolog per meal and 2 Lantus if below 94 and 3 if above, I am usually around 90-99 before bed. 2 keeps me very even and 3 can drop up to 20 so I need to contemplate any late protein etc that may or may not be there.</p><p>I think if I drink coffee 1st thing I will spike because of cortisol/adrenaline and I have read coffee competes with insulin just like vitamin C. I know C spikes me as well. I seem to do better with coffee at least an hour after insulin and better after 2 hours still.</p><p>I wasn't sure what you meant by ridiculous but I guess I am there too. I rarely see BS over 120 but after BF I can get into the teens. Fastings are usually in the 80's. So like you numbers are all great but it is that persistent morning spike that drives me crazy. I usually go into lunch around 92-100 and dinner as well. So I don't have many spikes during the day unless I over eat. The morning spike rarely comes down after 3 hours unless I take extra insulin. I think since DX I have no 'honeymoon' phase. I am too consistent everywhere but BF and too predictable. I can fast from BF to dinner (skipping lunch) with maybe a few nuts in between and I stay steady but BF drives me nuts! I feel the increase and I also feel the extra bolus and it feels like I am crawling out of my skin when BS moves and it makes me hungry. Interesting about stress in the morning vs other times of day. Animal protein makes me feel wonky at BF too. I will go down and then up so I don't eat it then, just lunch and dinner and keep it to small portions so I don't need to bolus again.</p><p>For me the bike ride to work would spike me in the morning. Do you notice a difference on your days off with no bike ride?</p><p>Can I ask how much animal protein you eat and what meals? BF for me is guac and celery, lunch is 2 oz P usually poultry, tuna or egg) and a handful of veg mixed with mustard/mayo dressing . Dinner is same with 3 oz P (mostly fish but occasionally lamb or beef) and a few more veg/small salad. snacks are a few macadamias, 2 or 3 olive or the little 1-1.5 oz guac I have left from BF. I KNOW P spikes me as much as carbs.</p><p>Have you ever split basal? I have considered it but fear I will go low the rest of the day. Novolog is much more predictable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kristin251, post: 1012841, member: 240838"] Thanks Dave for your thorough explanation. as for me, I take one unit of Novolog per meal and 2 Lantus if below 94 and 3 if above, I am usually around 90-99 before bed. 2 keeps me very even and 3 can drop up to 20 so I need to contemplate any late protein etc that may or may not be there. I think if I drink coffee 1st thing I will spike because of cortisol/adrenaline and I have read coffee competes with insulin just like vitamin C. I know C spikes me as well. I seem to do better with coffee at least an hour after insulin and better after 2 hours still. I wasn't sure what you meant by ridiculous but I guess I am there too. I rarely see BS over 120 but after BF I can get into the teens. Fastings are usually in the 80's. So like you numbers are all great but it is that persistent morning spike that drives me crazy. I usually go into lunch around 92-100 and dinner as well. So I don't have many spikes during the day unless I over eat. The morning spike rarely comes down after 3 hours unless I take extra insulin. I think since DX I have no 'honeymoon' phase. I am too consistent everywhere but BF and too predictable. I can fast from BF to dinner (skipping lunch) with maybe a few nuts in between and I stay steady but BF drives me nuts! I feel the increase and I also feel the extra bolus and it feels like I am crawling out of my skin when BS moves and it makes me hungry. Interesting about stress in the morning vs other times of day. Animal protein makes me feel wonky at BF too. I will go down and then up so I don't eat it then, just lunch and dinner and keep it to small portions so I don't need to bolus again. For me the bike ride to work would spike me in the morning. Do you notice a difference on your days off with no bike ride? Can I ask how much animal protein you eat and what meals? BF for me is guac and celery, lunch is 2 oz P usually poultry, tuna or egg) and a handful of veg mixed with mustard/mayo dressing . Dinner is same with 3 oz P (mostly fish but occasionally lamb or beef) and a few more veg/small salad. snacks are a few macadamias, 2 or 3 olive or the little 1-1.5 oz guac I have left from BF. I KNOW P spikes me as much as carbs. Have you ever split basal? I have considered it but fear I will go low the rest of the day. Novolog is much more predictable. [/QUOTE]
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