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<blockquote data-quote="martykendall" data-source="post: 840535" data-attributes="member: 178652"><p>Hey Spiker </p><p></p><p>Thanks for taking a look in more detail. The formula is Insulin = carbs + 0.54P - fibre.</p><p></p><p>The fibre seems pretty clear cut. It's simply not digestible and hence doesn't impact insulin or glucose. </p><p></p><p>The protein allowance is subject to a bunch of variables. I could argue it's 54% based on the precendent of Wilders' formula, 60% based on the actual data, or 80% based on the glugenic protential of amino acids versus ketogenic (see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucogenic_amino_acid" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucogenic_amino_acid</a>). </p><p></p><p>In reality the glucogenic potential of protein is going to depend on a while range of factors including how much protein and carbs you're eating, whether you're eating more or less calories than you need an whether you're excercising a lot or a little. </p><p></p><p>I would prefer to be on the conservative side - to allow something rather than nothing but not too much so you're going to overdose. </p><p></p><p>Using this approach to help with refining insulin dose is one thing. But I think it becomes more useful when you use it to help you select foods as well. It helps you minimise your errors more - a la Berstein's law of small numbers. </p><p></p><p>If you're going to live on a high carb, low protein dietary approach then the insulin index probably isn't worth the hassle. However if you're going for a low carb, moderate protein, high fat approach then it will help refine your insulin dose for protein which is a significant proportion of the insulin demand in that paradigm.</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p><p></p><p>Marty</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="martykendall, post: 840535, member: 178652"] Hey Spiker Thanks for taking a look in more detail. The formula is Insulin = carbs + 0.54P - fibre. The fibre seems pretty clear cut. It's simply not digestible and hence doesn't impact insulin or glucose. The protein allowance is subject to a bunch of variables. I could argue it's 54% based on the precendent of Wilders' formula, 60% based on the actual data, or 80% based on the glugenic protential of amino acids versus ketogenic (see [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucogenic_amino_acid[/URL]). In reality the glucogenic potential of protein is going to depend on a while range of factors including how much protein and carbs you're eating, whether you're eating more or less calories than you need an whether you're excercising a lot or a little. I would prefer to be on the conservative side - to allow something rather than nothing but not too much so you're going to overdose. Using this approach to help with refining insulin dose is one thing. But I think it becomes more useful when you use it to help you select foods as well. It helps you minimise your errors more - a la Berstein's law of small numbers. If you're going to live on a high carb, low protein dietary approach then the insulin index probably isn't worth the hassle. However if you're going for a low carb, moderate protein, high fat approach then it will help refine your insulin dose for protein which is a significant proportion of the insulin demand in that paradigm. Cheers Marty [/QUOTE]
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