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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tim2000s" data-source="post: 843060" data-attributes="member: 30007">Surely the counter argument to that is pretty clear though.The body needs insulin. Yes, it does.It's nuts to try and eliminate it. That's correct, but how is fat deposited? Insulin causes fat cells to convert excess carbohydrate to fat and store it while stopping the body from using it as energy.What  is logically the best way to reduce obesity? Reduce insulin or carbs.Well if you reduce carbs, then you reduce insulin. That way you reduce fat conversion and therefore obesity.Ignoring insulin toxicity, I'd posit that this is simply a side effect of there being too much insulin in the system, rather than anything else, and in a normal, functioning adult, the only real way to reduce insulin is to reduce carbs (and other glucogenic foods, but predominantly carbs). I think that much of the issue relating to insulin and the high carb diet is that the majority of HCPs have little idea of how important Insulin is in the lipid metabolism. I encourage all T1 and T2 diabetics to try and have a discussion with DSNs, GPs and consultants where they bring this into the conversation. I think people will be surprised at the results.I don't think I'd go near the insulin toxicity discussion as the immediate impact of LC is that you reduce obesity (which gets more focus than even diabetes). As a side effect, based on the Southport GP and Newcastle Diet experiences, you can reverse diabetes. If LC is therefore put forward as the correct way to eat, then you wouldn't see anywhere near as much obesity or insulin resistance, and therefore T2 wouldn't be developed to anything like the extent that we have been seeing.</blockquote>

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