Is it normal to constantly feel hungry?

Andy12345 said:

im not liking pavs post now you all are embarrasing him, awful advice as always pav im feeling a little bad about my ratio of likes now must try harder!

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Andy

I would happily settle for half the charm, easy wit and general joie de vivre of your posts.( I can just see you going "ooh la di da" now)

As for likes to posts ratio, perhaps I should quit while I am ahead!

Nah! Enjoy posting too much!

Any prizes going?!

Pavlos


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pavlosn said:

Andy

I would happily settle for half the charm, easy wit and general joie de vivre of your posts.( I can just see you going "ooh la di da" now)

As for likes to posts ratio, perhaps I should quit while I am ahead!

Nah! Enjoy posting too much!

Any prizes going?!

Pavlos


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Andy is like the Maverick one lol

Semiphonic as a starter for 10 just try cutting down on the starchy foods and have diet /sugar free drinks. I still have a very small portion of them (and I mean small) . You will find what works for you. If you ask the hotel Im sure they will help you. You can have a fry up for breakfast

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pavlosn said:

Andy

I would happily settle for half the charm, easy wit and general joie de vivre of your posts.( I can just see you going "ooh la di da" now)

As for likes to posts ratio, perhaps I should quit while I am ahead!

Nah! Enjoy posting too much!

Any prizes going?!

Pavlos


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ooh la di da!! .... man your good, i couldn't even help it after you said i would

ive made 6 more names and I'm logging each of them in twice a day to like all my posts

id wink, but I'm afraid of the dark

semiphonic said:

Thanks Andy, both of your replies make perfect sense
I started testing yesterday (and yes I had to buy my own meter!) and my BG seems to be 'erratic' at best, my average is 10.1 although I need more test results to really draw any decent conclusions from the numbers.



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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this and if they have I apologise ( I have poor eyesight ). With bloods that high your problem may not be food at all, it may be thirst. Feeling hungry and feeling thirsty can feel the same as each other. Try drinking a little more. I used to have your problem but found the perpetual hunger wasn't so much about food, more about drinking. While my blood sugars were high I would be thirsty, not enough to recognise it for what it was. Once I tried drinking more I found the perpetual hunger receded. Good diet is one thing but drinking enough is essential.

semiphonic said:

I know this is going to sound stupid but I wasn't aware this was a high carb diet, there's less bread in my diet than I have been advised to eat, I've been advised to have bread with every meal!!

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The problem with the "healthy diet"/"eatwell plate" is that these diets are very high in glucose. So much so is that even a reduction by half or two thirds can still be too much for some people.

It's the "starchy foods" which are highest highest in glucose. Thus reducing these is likely to be more important for blood glucose control than anything to do with "sugar". Indeed you'd have to turn a cup of coffee into a thick syrup to get as much glucose in it as two slices of bread.

I've started to test my BG this week, not enough information yet to spot trends etc, although it does seem to be raised most of the time.

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How often are you testing and what results are you getting.

Fed up already with the lack of information from my GP/DSN and I'm only 7 weeks into this.

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Lack of information may be better than bad information though.

The other thing to be concerned about would be the Satins. (Diabetics already have one major metabolic disorder. Deliberatly inducing another isn't the most sensible of things.) Having, drug induced, hypocholesterolemia will do nothing to help with diabetes. If anything it's likely to make it worst. (With things like neuopathy being symptoms of both diabetes and hyopcholesterolemia...)

According to a BHF/WHO study the "healthy range" for cholesterol is 5.2-6.2 mmol/l with lowest CVD risk being at 5.4 mmol/l. It's also possible for HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors to shift LDL towards "pattern B", which increases CVD and stroke risk. (A high LDL-C in an insulin resistant person may may actually be due to their liver attempting to reduce harmful pattern B LDL particles.)

The only really useful tests for determining CVD risk are apoB count or LDL count and size profiling. (Even where LDL-C is actually measured it's of little use since the number of LDL particles is of far greater importance.) Since the common justification for dishing out Satins like "sweeties" is reduction of CVD risk it's utterly daft not to perform the relevent tests FIRST.

By comparison Metformin is a fairly safe drug. Unlikely to do any harm even in people it does no good.

N.B. LDL, HDL, (VLDL & IDL) are lipoproteins NOT "cholesterol" and anyone who insists of calling them that simply dosn't know what they are talking about.

mpe said:

N.B. LDL, HDL, (VLDL & IDL) are lipoproteins NOT "cholesterol" and anyone who insists of calling them that simply dosn't know what they are talking about.

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could that be why the LoCHoF diet (LowCarbHighFat) affects them favourably, as it seems to be rather paradoxical.

The hunter gatherer diet (eating habit not diet) is grass fed so organic, swims in the sea, natural fat products made from animals milk, olive oil
and grows from the ground so fruit veg and nuts. (meat, milk, fish, eggs + cheese) the sorts of things people ate just after the war when rationing had finished. Eat whats naturally in season and not flown in or forced grown as well. I'm starving all the time. i sympathise. xxx

It will get better as your body learns how to run on a different fuel. I'm getting more used to the feelings of hunger, they are lessening now.

Hello, what a good thread, but do choose the diet or portion control diet which works best for you, it does take time.so much to think about, you will find the way which is right got you....
I love making my own homemade soup, with a bread roll ( I don't low carb) but have reduced my carbs over the last year...
I was very Hungary before I was diagnosed and so thirsty, but afraid the signs were there for 10 years just not picked up...
Tc and look after yourself .......Kat

semiphonic said:

I just wanted to thank you all for taking the time to answer my question, I've gone from feeling very alone to feeling quite positive. I know there's a long road ahead but knowing that there are a lot of decent people who have gone before me seems to help.

I think I'm going to enjoy being part of this forum

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You've done just great.
This forum is a lifeline for many and so grateful that it's here and easily accessible.
Keep on keeping on

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
Another helpful description of the low carb approach.