Looking4someone2help
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
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When we went over my foods and numbers, she told me to eat more carbs. I wasn't a big rice or pasta eater... well ever. I drink too much soda and candy, so I gave up most candy and really reduced my soda. I hated water but now I bring it everywhere and drink before I get thirsty for soda. Then I started eating more, but same foods and adding healthier proteins and fats and water to my diet. I never ate horrible meals, but I did skip meals cus I wasn't hungry. So honestly I eat more now, but I had too much candy and soda. I would have had an apple and Coke for late breakfast now a water and apple before I get hungry as soon after waking up as I can. And if I get hungry later another apple. But she wants me to eat apple sauce and that taste horrible and looks like sick people or baby food. I mean no offense if you like it... I just only ate apple sauce or mash sweet potatoes when I was sick and it's stuck in my head only eat sick. I get more food with my apple and same carbs from her handout. She is changing my whole eating habits and I don't understand what I was doing wrong after I made changes. I know before... But my tummy has hurt various amount sense changing my diet last Wednesday and my numbers are higher. They are still ok numbers, but I was happier with an apple not apple sauce. I have a harder time getting the foods in without feeling full after a few bites when I add a hole piece of chicken. I don't like eating 3 times more meat. I was happier with a few bites or slices through out the day. She claim protein will keep me full but I wasn't starved before. Someone suggested I was sick with a virus but I fell better than I did last weekend but I gave up on apple sauce and all that meat at every meal. I've never eaten so much meat in 11 days as I typically would in 1 month. That's kinda why I'm here. Look for other ways and understanding where I am going wrong. There can't just be her way. It's not working for me and my tummy isn't happy with the changes.A hba1c of 5.3% is excellent and in normal range, it equates to an average blood sugar of 5.9, so that does work if the numbers you see on your monitor are 4.8 -6.4
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/hba1c-units-converter.html
Your nurse sounds, perhaps unduly, pessimistic. I hope some experienced type 2s will be along shortly to reassure you that if you keep working hard to be healthy (well done on the hard work so far - bet the nurse didn't congratulate you on that, but it's definitely worth congratulating!) type 2 doesn't have to progress to needing medication.
Edited: to tag @daisy1 for a welcome, pleasebecause I don't think you have had it yet
Maybe that's what she wants. Ha ha. I was 5.7 on July 25 though. So 5.3 October 5 isn't as much of a difference as 7.1 on May 2 ( I think) But I did give up a lot of soda and candy. And I was on summer vacation and no stressors. And I wasn't sick at all or fighting with anyone. So I was in a different place in Oct and July than May. I think I have a personality that doesn't understand in moderation so I have to give up soda or candy so they aren't on my mind and only have them for holidays or special occasions. But I bet your right she wants to retest cus I said he stress will come back in November when I have to deal with things.That is a great HbA1c, I know when I reached 5.3% the Dr wanted the test redone because he thought it was mistake. Keep up the good work.
Now look here, Looking4someone2help, you really aren't playing fair with your Dr/nurse. If you insist on refusing to eat carbs your diabetes won't progress properly, you'll quite possibly never need your feet amputating and will only need the occasional appointments with them. This just isn't cricket. They've got families to support. What if everyone did what you have done, there'd hardly be any diabetes!!!When we went over my foods and numbers, she told me to eat more carbs
When we went over my foods and numbers, she told me to eat more carbs. I wasn't a big rice or pasta eater... well ever. I drink too much soda and candy, so I gave up most candy and really reduced my soda. I hated water but now I bring it everywhere and drink before I get thirsty for soda. Then I started eating more, but same foods and adding healthier proteins and fats and water to my diet. I never ate horrible meals, but I did skip meals cus I wasn't hungry. So honestly I eat more now, but I had too much candy and soda. I would have had an apple and Coke for late breakfast now a water and apple before I get hungry as soon after waking up as I can. And if I get hungry later another apple. But she wants me to eat apple sauce and that taste horrible and looks like sick people or baby food. I mean no offense if you like it... I just only ate apple sauce or mash sweet potatoes when I was sick and it's stuck in my head only eat sick. I get more food with my apple and same carbs from her handout. She is changing my whole eating habits and I don't understand what I was doing wrong after I made changes. I know before... But my tummy has hurt various amount sense changing my diet last Wednesday and my numbers are higher. They are still ok numbers, but I was happier with an apple not apple sauce. I have a harder time getting the foods in without feeling full after a few bites when I add a hole piece of chicken. I don't like eating 3 times more meat. I was happier with a few bites or slices through out the day. She claim protein will keep me full but I wasn't starved before. Someone suggested I was sick with a virus but I fell better than I did last weekend but I gave up on apple sauce and all that meat at every meal. I've never eaten so much meat in 11 days as I typically would in 1 month. That's kinda why I'm here. Look for other ways and understanding where I am going wrong. There can't just be her way. It's not working for me and my tummy isn't happy with the changes.
Thanks, I appreciate your encouragement I have added beans, and nuts or seeds after researching videos from nutritionfacts.org. I still will eat cheese, eggs and meat, but this doctor has proof my diet is ok and my lab results show I am a little low on iron, vitamin D, and calcium. But it's just slightly under average for iron and calcium. I am very low on vitamin D, but I'm a big copper tone baby (sun block) cus I have 2 generations on skin cancer before age 65. My only major problem is high triglycerides. In July I was 174, and my doctor says mine should be under 100 'cus my cholesterol is lower side of average. After Dr. Greger's videos I added spinach, beans, nuts, seeds, avacados, and less olive oil to my diet, so I think I am healthier now than ever. So I'm probably healthier cus I felt better and way more energy until I added more carbs and meat protein. I don't want to be a vegan or vegetarian, but I see nothing wrong with a vegan or vegetarian diet for most meals. I still grave a good burger from time to time. I feel healthier. It's not that I have cholesterol issues 'cus before my changes my total was 176 in May and in July it was 140. Dr. Greger has taught me to add healthier fats and protein 'cus I probably was missing that, so I have made those changes sense July. I feel 99% myself today and I am going to tell her I have digestive issues and physically get bloated by an extra 2 inches when I was eating that much meat and carbs. I thought fruit and veggies have carbs, so where did humans get carbs to evolve. Apple sauce is so gross. It's like mushy apples with cinnamon and sugar water to make a syrup. I rather have a baked pear with cinnamon and walnuts or an apple. I had no problem eating eggs, spinach, tomatoes, peppers, and onions with potatoes for breakfast. I ate a light lunch and dinner and was full. I like sausage and I ate it, but I didn't need more than 3 bites of my brothers breakfast. If I order my own it's too much and I remember having trouble with meat and milk as a kid, so maybe my tummy doesn't digest it. My brother pointed out I lived off tomatoes, carrots, peppers, greenbeans, salad, and potatoes as a kid and I always gave him my steak or chicken when no one was looking. I eat more of a variety now, but those are the veggies we are a lot. I have no proof of such a condition except I always throw it up and you can see it was meat or get bloated if I eat too much meat but not veggies. My brother always took care of me as a kid cus I would eat his veggies and he would eat my meat and drink my milk. And my protein level is right in the middle of the labs average. Yes I am from the states but I don't trust American diet. Obviously, I think we eat too much sugar and we have poor quality control. I don't understand their info. I ate bad but not as bad as the food they tell me to eat now. It makes me think I ate good and now real good. If you look at a us food label of a food sold in Canada or Europe it's not loaded with sugar type products. In the us we use a lot of corn syrup and various other names for sugar. I have been looking up conversions to make things easier to understand each other. It's my job sense I am on a UK page. I think I was 90kg (200lb) and I want to be about 64-79kg (140-175lb). My ideal weight is 64kg (140lb). Forgive me, I don't know what you use to measure height but I am 5'8. I already lost 8kg or 18lb. It's has come off on its own but I gained it from a muscle growing injection and cortisone for back spasms in 2013. I am going on memory for converting lb to kg, so it may be off but the lb aren't. I realize most of the world uses a different measuring system. But I feel great until she told me to eat more meat and I still think that's why I got so sick Saturday night to all day Sunday. It was horrible and I posted about it earlier. She was ok with me not drinking cow milk and gave me a funny face when I said I really like unsweetened original almond milk. It taste lighter and doesn't hurt my tummy at all. I loved it the first taste many years ago. But I been great sense I ate less soda and candy. I use to get a sinus infection or ear infection or cold every month and I got taken off my blood pressure medicine. My memory is amazingly better and more energy. I can snap out of feeling down within the same day that I have negative feelings. I have been thinking of asking her to compromise with a vegan protein in my smoothies. I swear smoothies are amazing... My fav is coconut water, mango, strawberries, and pineapple. I also like ones with ginger and kale and spinach but I forget what veggies. I also make one with strawberries, bananas, and almond milk that I pretend is icecream. I like them thick and eat with a spoon and they need to be liquid freg cold and fruit or veggies freezer cold. I was thinking vega protein cus they sell in Canada and California (strict state). But I want to research more and I bought a vega and sun warrior protein powder to try but I don't know ill like the taste. But I don't think I am missing protein from my labs, but if I am working out at the gym than maybe I need it on those days. I think Americans eat too much meat and diary and sense I've never wanted a lot of it and now it makes me feel sick eating a lot. Plus I only eat the grass feed and the ones not treated horribly. I understand it's dinner but I have always struggled with meat when it is served with a bone or any liquid that looks like blood. It makes me sad and sick to think about. I was like that as a kid too. But if I must eat meat than it can't be a baby animal, can't have a horrible life, and must have had good memories. You are what you eat so if I need to eat cow it has to be a happy cow eating grass like I remember as a kid. I guess finding out I was eating the cow that moo at me yesterday was tough on a 7 or 8 year old.Your nurse does not know what she is talking about. Be smilingly polite and ignore her. Tell her that you want to aim for non diabetic numbers and you have no desire to eat more carbohydrates. I have heard of some remarkably stupid advice to diabetics in the past, but this just takes the biscuit.
There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate, none of us needs bread, pasta etc. If you enjoy fruit and you have normalised your blood sugars whilst still eating fruit, marvellous! You do need some protein daily, but if you are content with a modest amount, I shouldn't worry about it. To reassure yourself, weigh your protein, you only need 1g of protein for every kg of body weight, and if you are overweight at all you can have 1g protein for 1kg of your ideal weight. Are you from the States? Apple sauce and mashed sweet potato doesn't sound like classic UK advice. Don't know how that converts to ounces and pounds, but there will be an online converter, or tell me what your ideal weight would be and I'll tell you how many ounces of protein you should aim for as a minimum (it won't be a huge amount).
It may take a lot of courage to ignore this particular 'non expert' - for a young person, but honestly, you are on the right lines and she is talking rubbish! Nobody needs apple sauce and sweet potato mash!
You crack me up #Sally and James. Thank you, I needed a good smile today. My younger brother spent the entire last 2 days trying to make laugh and you finally made me chuckle. I am sure he warmed me up. My mom died at 45 and my dad died at 63 and my grandfather 62 and my grandma 83 and my other grandparents died before I was born. My goal is to live well past 83 and out live all my other family who neglect and abuse their bodies. I am done treating my body horribly with too much junk food and not enough exercise. I want to finish school and began my life and maybe one day be a parent to my someday kids like I had and reproduce good people and maybe then I can do my part to reduce the @$$hole population. Sorry I'm emotional today... Really emotional. I cried in the movie me before you cus I felt the girl didn't help will enough and there had to be more she could do. I didn't want him to die just can't imagine.Now look here, Looking4someone2help, you really aren't playing fair with your Dr/nurse. If you insist on refusing to eat carbs your diabetes won't progress properly, you'll quite possibly never need your feet amputating and will only need the occasional appointments with them. This just isn't cricket. They've got families to support. What if everyone did what you have done, there'd hardly be any diabetes!!!
Well done. Keep up the good work.
Sally
I will agree on that comment.I want to finish school and began my life and maybe one day be a parent to my someday kids like I had and reproduce good people and maybe then I can do my part to reduce the @$$hole population.
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