Actually, I eat like everyone else in the world, my point is whether I eat **** or I eat healthily, does it matter, I have good diabetic control. I am the right weight for my size. My cholesterol level at last check a week ago was 3:2.Just out of curiosity, why do you eat like that? Do you consider this a healthy way to eat? I'm pretty sure there's more to health than blood glucose levels.
Of course it makes absolutely no difference to me what you eat - why would it? I didn't mean to offend you. I suppose there was an implied vilification in my question, but that's not what I intended. Honestly, I have no personal interest in your health. However, given the title of this thread, it's almost like you posted your unhealthy diet as a challenge for someone to make an unsupportive comment. Do you expect people to provide supportive comments about that kind of a diet?Actually, I eat like everyone else in the world, my point is whether I eat **** or I eat healthily, does it matter, I have good diabetic control. I am the right weight for my size. My cholesterol level at last check a week ago was 3:2.
I exercise, but not what I like to do.
I work 20hr days and my diet and my lifestyle suit.
Is it ideal? No. But we seem to have this vilification of people cause they don't eat correctly or don't exercise. Do we feel pressure from everyone to lead this saints lifestyle. Yes so instead of putting people down for their lifestyle maybe you should enquire about why instead of hell and damnation and the im better than you.
Is my diabetes under control? Yes. Is it an uphill struggle? Everyday. I always said my life 1st Diabetes 2nd. I have met diabetics who get up at 6am every morning, have a bowl of Weetabix, at 12:30 they have a ham salad sandwich. And at dinner time meat veg and potatoes. In bed by 9
I like a lie in. And for fear of diabetes killing me I certainly would not adhere to the above timetable. I enjoy my life.
If I die, I die.
I will not be vilified for my lifestyle choices.
If it is not killing them, and they are not eating it to excess, ie, everything in moderation, why shouldn't they? Isn't that the point of the DAFNE course? To allow someone to eat what they want and not feel bad about it?Do you expect people to provide supportive comments about that kind of diet?
I was just wondering why someone would choose to eat junk food, regardless of anything else. I know that lots of people do, since it's a big business. I was not trying to make anyone feel bad. Sorry.If it is not killing them, and they are not eating it to excess, ie, everything in moderation, why shouldn't they? Isn't that the point of the DAFNE course? To allow someone to eat what they want and not feel bad about it?
The 'unwritten rules for diabetics' don't say eat lchf, or no carbs. It makes sense to reduce them but if someone is able to live their life maintaining a glucose level and other health indicators that are considered to be good whilst eating what a significant portion of the population eats, why shouldn't they be supported in that?
I think it comes back to the point that diabetes is a shared name for a very personal condition.
Yes, it is kind of people to offer information / experience.People ask for advice,and kind people give their time to help on this Forum.
Its then the individuals choice to decide what is best for them.
You did not offend, I find a good debate where feathers are ruffled is the best way to evoke good responses.I was just wondering why someone would choose to eat junk food, regardless of anything else. I know that lots of people do, since it's a big business. I was not trying to make anyone feel bad. Sorry.
Actually, I eat like everyone else in the world, my point is whether I eat **** or I eat healthily, does it matter,
I will not be vilified for my lifestyle choices.
I have read the responses of many questions asked as any new member or newly diagnosed person would and am aghast at the way the responses make you feel guilty for your lifestyle choices and seem to insist on low carb or no carb is the only way forward, it does vilify people's choice as well as their lack of knowledge about their illness, so whether it bothers me or not is not the point.No, it doesn't matter at all to me what you do if you are happy with your lifestyle. But what does matter to me and to many others here are the diabetics who come to our forum asking for advice and help in managing their condition/lowering their blood sugar levels. And we give them the best help and advice we can, But since you're happy with your own choices I don't understand why you appear to believe that what we tell them also applies to, and vilifies you?
Robbity
No, it doesn't matter at all to me what you do if you are happy with your lifestyle. But what does matter to me and to many others here are the diabetics who come to our forum asking for advice and help in managing their condition/lowering their blood sugar levels. And we give them the best help and advice we can, But since you're happy with your own choices I don't understand why you appear to believe that what we tell them also applies to, and vilifies you?
Robbity
I have read the responses of many questions asked as any new member or newly diagnosed person would and am aghast at the way the responses make you feel guilty for your lifestyle choices and seem to insist on low carb or no carb is the only way forward, it does vilify people's choice as well as their lack of knowledge about their illness, so whether it bothers me or not is not the point.
People are too scared to put their thoughts down for fear of a berating. These people need all of our help or not but without a rounded supply of information how can they make an informed choice.
No carbs might work for you it might not, but the response is that new members do not involve themselves for fear of the obvious witch hunt that is prevalent in some responses.
The likes of people like me may have been on here looking at ways to improve their lifestyle, but being told I should eat this or can't eat that is more likely to get my back up.
As if newly diagnosed don't have enough to deal with, they have just had the rug pulled from under them and the changes they have to make are epic, they are being force fed so much information. They have no time to grieve their past life and now we are telling them things Doctors are saying the opposite, surely our response should be for them to trial what is best and be the support if it doesn't work and the kudos giver if it does.
No one else is going to care for them but themselves. So surely we should be giving them the tools to make the right choices. Not forcing our choices on them.
So yes I feel vilified for my choices and your answer just sparks fire
I have read the responses of many questions asked as any new member or newly diagnosed person would and am aghast at the way the responses make you feel guilty for your lifestyle choices and seem to insist on low carb or no carb is the only way forward, it does vilify people's choice as well as their lack of knowledge about their illness, so whether it bothers me or not is not the point.
Maybe because this was posted by a Type 1 diabetic in the Type 1 area of the forums, we Type 2's should just keep our opinions to ourselves? At least, that's the general message I'm getting from some of the posters on this thread.What alternative is there to low carbing for me, a seriously obese type 2 not on medication? If I don't eat less than 80g carbs a day my BG's go too high. If I don't eat around 30-50g carbs I don't lose weight.
Maybe because this was posted by a Type 1 diabetic in the Type 1 area of the forums, we Type 2's should just keep our opinions to ourselves? At least, that's the general message I'm getting from some of the posters on this thread.
I'd be really interested to see an example of what the critics would consider as a supportive, 'non-vilifying' reply that would be suitable to make to newcomers? Eat what you want in moderation, then if your next A1c is poor come back and ask us what we do to get our good results, maybe? God forbid we should give advice on diet just because it works for us and even though you asked for help.
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