So I seem to suffer from intermittent DP and am unsure how best to deal with it.
So the facts so far: about 75-80% of the time my sugar level suddenly starts rising at about 3am in the morning, by the time my alarm has gone off for work (about 6:25) my sugar levels will have gone up by anywhere between 5 and 12 - this morning I was 5-6 at 3am (according to the libre - and it had been level since midnight) when it started going up and by 6:25am ish when I got up it was 16ish - thanks Mr Liver!
Looking at the libre the amount it goes up doesn't seem to correlate with the number as it was at 3am - it can go up a lot whether it starts at 4 or whether it starts at 8-9.
However the other 20-25% of the time it seems to stay pretty level all night until I have breakfast.
Doesn't seem to make a difference whether its a weekday or weekend.
So yeah, anyone any clues as to how to deal with this without having to get up at 4am to check - on the grounds that I'm tired enough already when I get up (I don't think I sleep particularly well), if I get up at 4am I'll likely be a complete menace on the road at 7.10am due to tiredness (and the M4 is already bad enough without me being half asleep!)
Ok, and the stupid question for today: what counts as fatty proteins?Nibble on a fatty protein before bed. The fat will slow the digestion so by 3am the protein raise you just enough to stop the liver dump.
Nuts, cheese, bacon not naked, cream or mackerel. Not a meal worth just a small palm size for me but im obese with a big tum so maybe less for you types?Ok, and the stupid question for today: what counts as fatty proteins?
Thanks, I'll give it a try, I have a feeling I was snacking on peanuts last night anyways, but I seem to have the memory of a below average goldfish at times so I might be wrongNuts, cheese, bacon not naked, cream or mackerel. Not a meal worth just a small palm size for me but im obese with a big tum so maybe less for you types?
Far less tum since applying 'liver block'.
Well after trying this for a week or so, unfortunately it doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference whether I have fatty proteins before I go to bed or not, my DP still often kicks inNuts, cheese, bacon not naked, cream or mackerel. Not a meal worth just a small palm size for me but im obese with a big tum so maybe less for you types?
Far less tum since applying 'liver block'.
I have found this is mostly the case for me.Is there any link to type of evening meal the night before?
Not that' I've noticed, I'll try and actually keep a recordIs there any link to type of evening meal the night before?
I tend to stay pretty structured, dinner is normally at about 6pm, occasionally a bit later (like if I'm delayed by a docs appt or a quick drink after work) - only on very rare occasions do I ever eat my main meal after 8 (and that's normally a meal out with friends who can't get there early - but this is only a couple of times a year). I also tends to have roughly the same amount of carbs each time for dinner (60-70) with the occasional 80 (maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks).If I exercise, eat earlier or eat less carbs, I am fine.
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I couldn't possibly fast from midday til the next morning, I would be eating the furniture around me - I'm one of those people that always seems to feel hungry - my stomach is currently growling me as we speakHave you done an overnight basal rate test with fasting from midday the day before?
(I am thinking that maybe you need a bit more basal overnight and a bit less insulin with the evening meal.)
If I knew which of the 5 billion results were the liver tests on my medical records web page I'm sure I could find outI assume that your liver function test results are normal (don't trust your GP, look them up yourself).
Nope, I tend to play on my PC - MMO's take a lot of timeDo you exercise a lot in the evening?
DOI think we need a DO LOOP in there somewhere.
Novorapid -What insulin regime are you on? what when and where + bolus ratios please.
I couldn't possibly fast from midday til the next morning, I would be eating the furniture around me - I'm one of those people that always seems to feel hungry - my stomach is currently growling me as we speak
Oh yes! The week before it’s due, I’m a good 1.5-2mmol higher than the rest of the month. Libre showed me that too. I shove in an extra unit of basal that week, still experimenting.Going to come at this from a different angle...
It may not apply to you at all but have you ever tracked your sugars over your monthly cycle?!?
It is amazing how much the change in hormones during the month effects our sugar. I have only had my libre since September and there is a clear pattern for me that I would have never have understood pre libre. What I find personaly is the week before im due to start my period i become insulin resistant, most months this is over night as you describe and as im lucky enough to have a pump I then spend 7 days on 120% basal. This isnt always the case but mostly, i have had 1 cycle when i was resitant 24hrs and 1 when it was just during the day. I am sure this must happen to a lot of us.
Its interesting as the gradual rise during the night is exactly what I see, then when I check my diary its ' oh yes a week to go, lets up my basal! '. Day my period starts im back to normal basal and more sensitive to insulin again.
Going to come at this from a different angle...
It may not apply to you at all but have you ever tracked your sugars over your monthly cycle?!?.
DO
-- swear at liver!
WHILE sugar level too high because of liver dump
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