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<blockquote data-quote="Sean_Raymond" data-source="post: 2266211" data-attributes="member: 403497"><p>Hi.</p><p>Thank you for the reply.</p><p></p><p>The error Paul Mason made wasn't a mistake - it was part of a presentation he prepared and he used the study as a key example to demonstrate insulin is making people fat. He deliberately misrepresented the study - I'm happy to post links of the study and his video if I'm allowed.</p><p></p><p>I've seen a number of other claims he has made which amounts to mere hypothesis - ones not supported by what studies show. For exsmple he claims that lipomas are proof insulin makes you fat. The development of these fatty deposits occur in under 5% of T2DM and 25% of T1DM. The injection of insulin doesn't represent physiological release of insulin and these deposits are as much a result of an immune response to injury as it is insulin. Dr Paul Watson is adamant it's just the lipolytic property of insulin.</p><p></p><p>Insulin is generally more likely to signal satiety than hunger and the researchers never said what Ivor claimed happened to the subject to explain the weight loss. </p><p></p><p>Ivor simply reacted as part of a tribe with a pack like mentality when he should have considered what he was writing as he contradicted himself. After all - I'm interested in making people healthy so I am in the same team as him.</p><p></p><p>To be clear. I'm not opposed to low carb diets at all - i find them metabolically very interesting - but I an opposed to extrapolation or misrepresentation's of data passes of as evidence to support a particular narrative. Much of what is claimed about insulin and low carb just isn't supported by physiology or studies</p><p></p><p>I'm writing from my phone so apologies for typos etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sean_Raymond, post: 2266211, member: 403497"] Hi. Thank you for the reply. The error Paul Mason made wasn't a mistake - it was part of a presentation he prepared and he used the study as a key example to demonstrate insulin is making people fat. He deliberately misrepresented the study - I'm happy to post links of the study and his video if I'm allowed. I've seen a number of other claims he has made which amounts to mere hypothesis - ones not supported by what studies show. For exsmple he claims that lipomas are proof insulin makes you fat. The development of these fatty deposits occur in under 5% of T2DM and 25% of T1DM. The injection of insulin doesn't represent physiological release of insulin and these deposits are as much a result of an immune response to injury as it is insulin. Dr Paul Watson is adamant it's just the lipolytic property of insulin. Insulin is generally more likely to signal satiety than hunger and the researchers never said what Ivor claimed happened to the subject to explain the weight loss. Ivor simply reacted as part of a tribe with a pack like mentality when he should have considered what he was writing as he contradicted himself. After all - I'm interested in making people healthy so I am in the same team as him. To be clear. I'm not opposed to low carb diets at all - i find them metabolically very interesting - but I an opposed to extrapolation or misrepresentation's of data passes of as evidence to support a particular narrative. Much of what is claimed about insulin and low carb just isn't supported by physiology or studies I'm writing from my phone so apologies for typos etc. [/QUOTE]
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