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<blockquote data-quote="Sean_Raymond" data-source="post: 2266604" data-attributes="member: 403497"><p>I never said excessive insulin was a normal state. It would be a pathological condition causing the excessive insulin release – the insulin itself is not the medical condition. In a case of hyperinsulaemia (if not congenital) this would be a secondary condition resulting from a primary cause</p><p></p><p>Insulin release (or changes in blood glucose that are within range) doesn’t appear to increase food intake so I do not to see how we can blame insulin even if excessive insulin release (due to an underlying condition) would have a role in that hypo. </p><p></p><p>For example, in the case of the person with the insulinoma it was the tumour causing excessive insulin release which was causing hypos which caused the increased intake of food which resulted in the weight gain. Ivor Cummings thinks it was just the insulin which increased food intake (one would assume he would say this independent of a hunger stimulating hypo). Paul Watson thinks it was purely the anabolic properties of insulin which made the lady fatter (in this case Dr Watson oddly says she didn’t change her intake when she absolutely did). They are both simply incorrect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sean_Raymond, post: 2266604, member: 403497"] I never said excessive insulin was a normal state. It would be a pathological condition causing the excessive insulin release – the insulin itself is not the medical condition. In a case of hyperinsulaemia (if not congenital) this would be a secondary condition resulting from a primary cause Insulin release (or changes in blood glucose that are within range) doesn’t appear to increase food intake so I do not to see how we can blame insulin even if excessive insulin release (due to an underlying condition) would have a role in that hypo. For example, in the case of the person with the insulinoma it was the tumour causing excessive insulin release which was causing hypos which caused the increased intake of food which resulted in the weight gain. Ivor Cummings thinks it was just the insulin which increased food intake (one would assume he would say this independent of a hunger stimulating hypo). Paul Watson thinks it was purely the anabolic properties of insulin which made the lady fatter (in this case Dr Watson oddly says she didn’t change her intake when she absolutely did). They are both simply incorrect. [/QUOTE]
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