Jamesy Boy's Newcastle Diet

Even if you just do the newcastle diet for 5 days a week and eat low carb for the other 2 days, it will work, but it will take logger to get the complete benefit. Therefore a few slip ups that result in error is not the end of the world.

Well done on not eating the bread that come with the meat and salad

I expect your meter does not measure keytones and is just warning you there is a risk of diabetic ketoacidosis when your BG is over 15 so telling you to test for keytones being very high and if so, get a lift to A&E (calling 999 may not get a quick enough response.)

We have two different concepts that are as different as a little rain compared to 2 feet of rain in one hour, they get mixed up as the sound like each other.

In diabetic ketoacidosis your body has so little insulin that it eats it self up, the process stops the little remaining insulin from working,so goes into a runaway state. (A bit like feedback on a PA system.) When diabetic ketoacidosis is going on the body is breaking down its own fat and proteins at a very fast rate and hence producing a lot of keytones. Diabetic ketoacidosis will kill you within a day without expert intensive care, even with the best hospital care it still kills about 5% of cases.

A low level of keytones shows you that your body is "burning fat" maybe your own, maybe fat you have eaten. Hence having a low level of keytones proves that our carb intake is low enough to get Type2 under control. Detecting a low level of keytones can be hard, hence you can be burning fat even when you can't get a possible result.

Any updates ?

As a newly diagnosed diabetic this is really amazing stuff Jamesy_Boy! It's really awesome to see someone trying this at home, and thank you so much for posting your recipes!

I suspect I'll give this a go at some point soon, and to be honest all I can imagine is that big pile of 250g veg a day which is a bit offputting - so seeing what you've done with it is really helpful. Any other recipes you can share with us?

Unbelievable that you're halfway to your target weight already! Keep going!

AlexMagd said:

I suspect I'll give this a go at some point soon, and to be honest all I can imagine is that big pile of 250g veg a day which is a bit offputting - so seeing what you've done with it is really helpful. Any other recipes you can share with us?

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There is no need for a big pile of veg, you could get the same results by fasting with drinking "brone stock" 3 times a day for up to 14 days, then 7 days of low carb, repeated so as to give at least 8 complete weeks of fasting.

@AlexMagd there are lot of ways of removing the fat from our livers and pancreas and everything people have done that results in losing a lot of fat (reduce body weight to about 85% of what is was at the time we got Type2) seem to result in great benefit provided that most of the weight does not return.

All options about from a "balances" low fat diet seem to work.....

ringi said:

There is no need for a big pile of veg, you could get the same results by fasting with drinking "brone stock" 3 times a day for up to 14 days, then 7 days of low carb, repeated so as to give at least 8 complete weeks of fasting.

@AlexMagd there are lot of ways of removing the fat from our livers and pancreas and everything people have done that results in losing a lot of fat (reduce body weight to about 85% of what is was at the time we got Type2) seem to result in great benefit provided that most of the weight does not return.

All options about from a "balances" low fat diet seem to work.....

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Thanks - I guess it's horses for courses. For me, if I attempt ND I would want to mirror the original methodology as closely as possible; from what I've read it seems like even Prof Taylor isn't 100% sure on why it works. However given I need to lose about 7 stone to be healthy BMI I'm sure there will be multiple rounds of fasting/VLCD to come...

Prof Taylor is 100% sure that it’s about removing the fat from the Liver and Pancreas. He "just" does not know the best way to help people do this outside of a lab setting. The level of weekly support etc he gave people, along with the additional commitment from them having the weekly NMR scans etc is not piratical on a population scale.

The problem is how the NHS can do it given that a GP can’t spend more than about 1hr per year per person…….

AlexMagd said:

As a newly diagnosed diabetic this is really amazing stuff Jamesy_Boy! It's really awesome to see someone trying this at home, and thank you so much for posting your recipes!

I suspect I'll give this a go at some point soon, and to be honest all I can imagine is that big pile of 250g veg a day which is a bit offputting - so seeing what you've done with it is really helpful. Any other recipes you can share with us?

Unbelievable that you're halfway to your target weight already! Keep going!

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I can tell you from my current experience that 250g of veg is not a big pile, if it was I am sure the Newcastle diet would be easier.
I am only having black coffee at breakfast and soup at lunch time (around 150 calories) and that has allowed me to have some extra veg in my evening meal.