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<blockquote data-quote="RuthW" data-source="post: 944422" data-attributes="member: 148713">It needs repeating that fat does not &#039;fix&#039; diabetes. And exercise DOES &#039;fix&#039; part of diabetes - the insulin resistance. And without insulin resistance, the body (of a Type 2, we&#039;re now leaving aside Type 1s at Lucy&#039;s request) does not go into hyperinsulemia. So, it excels LCHF as a means of treatment.So the fat eating &#039;fix&#039; becomes superfluous or optional - but none of these people whose work you advocate so vigorously deals with that part of the data. It&#039;s called &quot;selective observation&quot; or &quot;confirmatory bias.&quot;The argument that &quot;exercise is not a factor because it&#039;s good for everyone&quot; is rather weak, to put it mildly. As is, &quot;well, people won&#039;t do it, they&#039;d rather just eat fat and avoid carbs.&quot; In the first case, exercise is especially important for those with a tendency (whether inherited or environmental) to insulin resistance. In the second, that&#039;s exactly the reason doctors push meds onto Type 2s without insisting on life-style changes. And I&#039;ve lost count of the number of times I&#039;ve heard LCHFers on here pouring contempt on doctors and nurses for doing that.Oh, and the &#039;source&#039; of the problem is not carbs. It&#039;s insulin resistance. And gluconeogenesis from protein also requires insulin, so not eating carbs is not a &quot;cure&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RuthW, post: 944422, member: 148713"] It needs repeating that fat does not 'fix' diabetes. And exercise DOES 'fix' part of diabetes - the insulin resistance. And without insulin resistance, the body (of a Type 2, we're now leaving aside Type 1s at Lucy's request) does not go into hyperinsulemia. So, it excels LCHF as a means of treatment. So the fat eating 'fix' becomes superfluous or optional - but none of these people whose work you advocate so vigorously deals with that part of the data. It's called "selective observation" or "confirmatory bias." The argument that "exercise is not a factor because it's good for everyone" is rather weak, to put it mildly. As is, "well, people won't do it, they'd rather just eat fat and avoid carbs." In the first case, exercise is especially important for those with a tendency (whether inherited or environmental) to insulin resistance. In the second, that's exactly the reason doctors push meds onto Type 2s without insisting on life-style changes. And I've lost count of the number of times I've heard LCHFers on here pouring contempt on doctors and nurses for doing that. Oh, and the 'source' of the problem is not carbs. It's insulin resistance. And gluconeogenesis from protein also requires insulin, so not eating carbs is not a "cure" [/QUOTE]

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