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Speiluhr

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi All,

I was diagnosed Type2( Diet only) 3 weeks ago and cannot stop eating everything in sight.
I have viewed this site over the last few years as I was "borderline" and know of the wealth of help , support and information that has been available to everyone.
Now I would like to ask for some advice for myself. What should I really be eating? and is there a diet plan( I know there is no such thing as a Diabetic Diet ) that is good to follow?


Any suggestions gratefully received.

Speiluhr :?
 
Welcome Speiluhr. You will get loads of support here. Daisy usually comes along with good advice for newcomers :-)
 
Hi Speiluhr and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which may help to answer your questions. If you have any more questions just ask and someone will be along to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi Speiluhr,

Welcome,

Daisy's advise is invaluable. Getting the numbers down takes discipline but it is very do-able.

Firstly you need to get hold of a BG meter, ideally off the doctor (the strips are costly) or if not source 1 for yourself, lots of people on here have the codefree meter as the strips are much cheaper than other types.

Secondly, you need to test test and test. the 2 hours after each meal is the most important one as it will tell you what is spiking your BG.

In this early stage you are researching to eliminate or reduce the foods which spike your BG. To do this I found it easier to eat little and often with only 1 carb element on the plate. If you put more than 1 carb you wont know if either 1 was ok on their own, both were bad or the combination of the 2 put you up.

Eg Eggs, bacon, beans, toast - if you spike it could be the beans or the toast or the combination was too much for you to handle.

Once you get a reading over 8.5 (7.8 if you want to aim lower) then either don't eat that food again (for now anyway) or try again with a reduced amount of that carb. EG by trial I know I can handle 30g of pasta with my bolognese.

A food and reading diary is vital cos unless you have the most amazing memory you aint gonna remember, plus it's good to have data to look back at both for yourself and if you need to show the HCP's

Good luck and keep us posted

Mary x
 
Thanks for your welcome.

Wasnt given meter as my Diabetes Nurse said they dont give them out out now as people were becoming obsessive and that they found it was causing more problems.

I will take on the diary advice from Mary as thats sound like a good plan. Not read through the site yet and still have to read the info from Daisy.

Once again thank you.
 
Speiluhr
There isn't a diabetic diet, but there used to be. You might look up the history if you're inteested
You might find it interesting that of the main food groups, only fats don't have any effects on blood glucose. Proteins have a slow effect and carbohydrates are pretty much converted directly into blood glucose. Thus it's the carbs you need to control in some way.
Reducing portion size may be enough. Or going to low GI foods. Or you may want to go low carb.
BE aware that much junk food is high in carbs. the fat in a burger won't raise your blood glucose, but the bun WILL.
Get yourself a meter and start to monitor. You'll be lucky if you doctor supports you in this, so will probably have to buy supplies.BE aware that the best deals are usually from the meter suppliers direct. they sometimes give away meters free.
With a meter and a databook telling you what carbs are in what foods, you'll be equipped to control T2. Withou those, you can't really know what's happening.
I personally think the usual once a year monitoring by doctors isn't enough to keep people well. And you CAN be well with T2
Hana
 
I am a newer joiner .it happy for me to visit this form I hope we can discuss often .I will do my best to offer good advices.Thank your for sharing your wonderful article. I very agree with your views from here. :D
 
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