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<blockquote data-quote="Brunneria" data-source="post: 1695787" data-attributes="member: 41816"><p>[USER=459333]@AdamJames[/USER]</p><p></p><p>Only just seen this thread or I would have chipped in much earlier. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Please don't fall for the thinking that keto=weightloss. </p><p>That is an assumption that many people make, usually because keto=weightloss <strong><em>for them</em></strong>.</p><p></p><p>I'm always amazed to hear of people who go VLC/keto and then lose weight while eating low carb baking, regular berries, cream on everything, and unlimited meat intake. I envy them, but it certainly doesn't work that way for me.</p><p></p><p>And there is a surprisingly large number of us who don't experience that auto-keto-weightloss even when we cut out all the indulgences (like cream and occasional berries, and dark choc) that are usually permissible on a keto diet.</p><p></p><p>The longer I hang around the forum, the more I read here, and elsewhere, the more I realise that there is a sub-group of us with sufficiently deranged metabolisms and wacky hormones for whom the normal keto needs to be combined with calorie restriction too. <strong><em>Or</em></strong> even greater carb restriction. <strong><em>Or</em></strong> cutting dairy. <strong><em>Or</em></strong> restricting protein intake. <strong><em>Or</em></strong> eliminating all sweeteners. <strong><em>Or </em></strong>eliminating <strong><em>all</em></strong> carbs. <strong><em>Or</em></strong> fat fasting occasionally. <strong><em>Or </em></strong>any number of other measures which will depend on the unique 'derangement' involved.</p><p></p><p>In addition, those of us with these 'derangements' are often the ones most likely to have hair trigger metabolisms that react astonishingly quickly to reduced calories by slowing the metabolism down to reduce calorie expenditure. Someone with a 'normal' metabolism can usually count on weeks of weight loss on a calorie restricted diet before the body slows the metabolism to fit the new calorie intake. My body makes the change in less than 5 days. And I have seen numerous posts by people on this forum whose weightloss is agonisingly slow on severe calorie restriction, and who then regain rapidly afterwards.</p><p></p><p>In my case, I did 5 weeks of one meal a day Mon-Fri and 2 meals at the weekends, calories around half my usual amount, and I lost 2 pounds in 5 weeks. I don't call that sustainable. It was boring, inconvenient, tiresome, frustrating, and would mean a constant starvation diet for years. When I went back to my usual 2 meals a day, I regained those 2 pounds within a couple of days. Like a cork in a bucket my weight just bobbed back up and stayed there on double the calories. Sigh.</p><p></p><p>I now try to vary my number of meals and calorie intake daily, so that my metabolism never gets any settled pattern that it can fix on and reduce basal metabolic rate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brunneria, post: 1695787, member: 41816"] [USER=459333]@AdamJames[/USER] Only just seen this thread or I would have chipped in much earlier. :D Please don't fall for the thinking that keto=weightloss. That is an assumption that many people make, usually because keto=weightloss [B][I]for them[/I][/B]. I'm always amazed to hear of people who go VLC/keto and then lose weight while eating low carb baking, regular berries, cream on everything, and unlimited meat intake. I envy them, but it certainly doesn't work that way for me. And there is a surprisingly large number of us who don't experience that auto-keto-weightloss even when we cut out all the indulgences (like cream and occasional berries, and dark choc) that are usually permissible on a keto diet. The longer I hang around the forum, the more I read here, and elsewhere, the more I realise that there is a sub-group of us with sufficiently deranged metabolisms and wacky hormones for whom the normal keto needs to be combined with calorie restriction too. [B][I]Or[/I][/B] even greater carb restriction. [B][I]Or[/I][/B] cutting dairy. [B][I]Or[/I][/B] restricting protein intake. [B][I]Or[/I][/B] eliminating all sweeteners. [B][I]Or [/I][/B]eliminating [B][I]all[/I][/B] carbs. [B][I]Or[/I][/B] fat fasting occasionally. [B][I]Or [/I][/B]any number of other measures which will depend on the unique 'derangement' involved. In addition, those of us with these 'derangements' are often the ones most likely to have hair trigger metabolisms that react astonishingly quickly to reduced calories by slowing the metabolism down to reduce calorie expenditure. Someone with a 'normal' metabolism can usually count on weeks of weight loss on a calorie restricted diet before the body slows the metabolism to fit the new calorie intake. My body makes the change in less than 5 days. And I have seen numerous posts by people on this forum whose weightloss is agonisingly slow on severe calorie restriction, and who then regain rapidly afterwards. In my case, I did 5 weeks of one meal a day Mon-Fri and 2 meals at the weekends, calories around half my usual amount, and I lost 2 pounds in 5 weeks. I don't call that sustainable. It was boring, inconvenient, tiresome, frustrating, and would mean a constant starvation diet for years. When I went back to my usual 2 meals a day, I regained those 2 pounds within a couple of days. Like a cork in a bucket my weight just bobbed back up and stayed there on double the calories. Sigh. I now try to vary my number of meals and calorie intake daily, so that my metabolism never gets any settled pattern that it can fix on and reduce basal metabolic rate. [/QUOTE]
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