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<blockquote data-quote="borofergie" data-source="post: 299344" data-attributes="member: 33342"><p>With respect Nigel, we're talking about "ketogenic diets", which are <em>by definition</em> carbohydrate and protein restricted, so <em>no-one</em> who is eating a ketogenic diet is consuming large amounts of protein. </p><p></p><p>If you eat more than 18% of your calories from protein (or more than 1g per pound of lean body mass), then the excess gluconeogenesis will knock you out of ketosis.</p><p></p><p>Any diabetes consultant who thinks that ketosis causes kidney problems through too much protein, lacks even a basic understanding of what ketosis is. If my endocronolgist* told me that "ketones would damage my kidneys and liver" I'd run her out of the building.</p><p></p><p>(*I am a T2 diabetic, I have more chance of getting a private audience with the Pope than I have of getting an appointment with an endocronolgist).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="borofergie, post: 299344, member: 33342"] With respect Nigel, we're talking about "ketogenic diets", which are [i]by definition[/i] carbohydrate and protein restricted, so [i]no-one[/i] who is eating a ketogenic diet is consuming large amounts of protein. If you eat more than 18% of your calories from protein (or more than 1g per pound of lean body mass), then the excess gluconeogenesis will knock you out of ketosis. Any diabetes consultant who thinks that ketosis causes kidney problems through too much protein, lacks even a basic understanding of what ketosis is. If my endocronolgist* told me that "ketones would damage my kidneys and liver" I'd run her out of the building. (*I am a T2 diabetic, I have more chance of getting a private audience with the Pope than I have of getting an appointment with an endocronolgist). [/QUOTE]
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