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<blockquote data-quote="Chris24Main" data-source="post: 2752366" data-attributes="member: 585131"><p>[USER=596634]@Aurelie[/USER] - LADA is real - not questioning that at all.</p><p></p><p>But - the other way to look at this is - You may or may not have a failing Pancreas (actually a tiny part of a tiny part of your pancreas)</p><p></p><p>If you are (because of an auto-immune attack) - there is nothing that will prevent, and you will be T1 like your dad.</p><p>If you are not (and the issue is mainly insulin resistance, even though it may look exactly the same) - your pancreas is capable of recovery and this can be reversed.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying it must be one way or the other. My own experience is somewhat opposite - I was diagnosed as "we don't know, but lets say T1 and start on insulin" - and if that had continued, I would be in exactly the same situation as [USER=372207]@Antje77[/USER] - dosing insulin and marking up LADA on my profile.</p><p></p><p>However, because one consultant forced a C-Peptide test (which looks for internally produced insulin) - my diagnosis was reversed, and I leaned very heavily on lifestyle modifications to focus on my liver.</p><p>I'm not, and cannot of course, say that any of this applies to you, but if I had continued insulin, it would simply have been impossible to tell the difference. </p><p></p><p>The temptation will be to start insulin, because that will seem to be the obvious choice, but don't give up on your pancreas until you know for sure (again - not advice to do anything, only that you should think and talk this through; once you start on a course of action, it may force you to stay on that course).</p><p></p><p>The other thing to mention, is that tasting ammonia would indicate too much protein - we are all told to avoid fat, and if we start to reduce carbs, the temptation is to reduce carbs without increasing fat. However - that means the amount of energy available goes down, and the body will start to metabolise protein for energy - this is not a good state of affairs, because that will actually generate the very kinds of toxins around your body that contribute to the inflammation which may be affecting all sorts of things.</p><p></p><p>(Put simply - the difference with protein is that it contains nitrogen. The liver can pretty much swap fat into glucose and back again, because it's all carbon and hydrogen. Proteins contain nitrogen, and if that is oxidised - burned for energy, you get lots of left over nitrogen in the form of ammonia)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chris24Main, post: 2752366, member: 585131"] [USER=596634]@Aurelie[/USER] - LADA is real - not questioning that at all. But - the other way to look at this is - You may or may not have a failing Pancreas (actually a tiny part of a tiny part of your pancreas) If you are (because of an auto-immune attack) - there is nothing that will prevent, and you will be T1 like your dad. If you are not (and the issue is mainly insulin resistance, even though it may look exactly the same) - your pancreas is capable of recovery and this can be reversed. I'm not saying it must be one way or the other. My own experience is somewhat opposite - I was diagnosed as "we don't know, but lets say T1 and start on insulin" - and if that had continued, I would be in exactly the same situation as [USER=372207]@Antje77[/USER] - dosing insulin and marking up LADA on my profile. However, because one consultant forced a C-Peptide test (which looks for internally produced insulin) - my diagnosis was reversed, and I leaned very heavily on lifestyle modifications to focus on my liver. I'm not, and cannot of course, say that any of this applies to you, but if I had continued insulin, it would simply have been impossible to tell the difference. The temptation will be to start insulin, because that will seem to be the obvious choice, but don't give up on your pancreas until you know for sure (again - not advice to do anything, only that you should think and talk this through; once you start on a course of action, it may force you to stay on that course). The other thing to mention, is that tasting ammonia would indicate too much protein - we are all told to avoid fat, and if we start to reduce carbs, the temptation is to reduce carbs without increasing fat. However - that means the amount of energy available goes down, and the body will start to metabolise protein for energy - this is not a good state of affairs, because that will actually generate the very kinds of toxins around your body that contribute to the inflammation which may be affecting all sorts of things. (Put simply - the difference with protein is that it contains nitrogen. The liver can pretty much swap fat into glucose and back again, because it's all carbon and hydrogen. Proteins contain nitrogen, and if that is oxidised - burned for energy, you get lots of left over nitrogen in the form of ammonia) [/QUOTE]
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