Yes it would! That's my point! As many of you are always saying 'we are all different' and we adjust LCHF or LCEF or RCIF or whatever else you want to call it to suit ourselves and our bodies.
I should not have involved myself in your discussion, I was suggesting it may not frighten someone new, I wasn't afraid of the concept is what I meant, never meant to suggest the opposite.
So it is low carb for most, but too high carb for you?
Maybe as a low carber, sayiing it's low carb, but too high in carbs, the rest of us tend to get a mixed message on what low carb is?
Your correct, it is playing with words. it is offensive to call a person fat, yet tell them to go high fat diet.If just seems to be a common word, people who don't eat fat have a 'fear' of it, which seems an odd phrase.
Again though, why the belief it would frighten people?
I don't eat it, I don't like it, I don't need the empty calories. I can't really say it's scary.
Oh for goodness sake, I think most people have the brains to work out that they need to find the right level of carbs and fats for themselves. Most people also don't continually pick fights with everyone, including newbies.
Chris, please do not be put off from posting.
And please do not apologise for having an opinion and expressing it.
I, and probably many others, agree with your comments.
It would be very unfortunate if you thought that @douglas99 's comments represented the majority of people on this forum.
I can assure you that is not the case.
No it's not! What is offensive is to tell them they are fat and then to give them various diets which don't work. Then of course next comes the accusation that the fat person didn't stick to the diets and that's why they are still fat. That's what offends me.Your correct, it is playing with words. it is offensive to call a person fat, yet tell them to go high fat diet.
No it's not! What is offensive is to tell them they are fat and then to give them various diets which don't work. Then of course next comes the accusation that the fat person didn't stick to the diets and that's why they are still fat. That's what offends me.
I should not have involved myself in your discussion, I was suggesting it may not frighten someone new, I wasn't afraid of the concept is what I meant, never meant to suggest the opposite.
If you have an opinion, get stuck in!X
I didn't say anything of the kind. I was referring to the diets given to me by my GP, which I stuck to, to the letter, and which didn't work even in the short term . LCHF is a lifestyle choice not a diet. It's for life, many people have been doing this for 6 or 7 years. I am getting very tired of your constant arguing and petty mindedness.You've said no one sticks to diets, not just fat people, diets don't work, apart from LCHF.
Of course you do, then you can scare the guy off again.That I do agree with.
I didn't say anything of the kind. I was referring to the diets given to me by my GP, which I stuck to, to the letter, and which didn't work even in the short term . LCHF is a lifestyle choice not a diet. It's for life, many people have been doing this for 6 or 7 years. I am getting very tired of your constant arguing and petty mindedness.
Zand is going nowhereFeel free to leave anytime.
I believe there is an 'ignore' option?
Zand is going nowhere
Not at all Douglas, unlike you, I care about others on the forum, so I shall stay. Thank you.Seems pointless complaining then?
I do agree that for most people the LCHF diet is good at keeping their BG levels down but it is also a weight loss diet so for those people who do not need to loose weight they will still do so on the diet that is a fact and this is not so good as being underweight can cause it's own complications.
When I started to watch my eating having been told I was prediabetic I cut right down on the starchy foods and stopped eating bread potatoes and other root veg and kept mostly to leafy stuff..I.never did eat much rice or pasta.. and of course I cut out altogether all the sugar stuff.and started to eat full fat yogurt cream and butter but that did not stop me from loosing weight and after about 4 weeks I had lost over a stone I had never been overweight in my life so this was a lot for me to loose I looked so skinny.. my GP was not very pleased.. I had to start eating some starchy carbs again just to keep my weight from dropping even more. I still struggle to keep it up so I eat a lot of nuts cheese and good oils but would dearly like to put on a few pounds again.
We just can't generalise that the LCHF is what every diabetic should be doing when we know nothing about their individual circumstances like other medical conditions that higher fat may not be good for or any other problems they may have yet without knowing any of this about them newbies are still told almost straight away they must stop eating certain foods altogether and eat more fats to get their BG levels down when this could be dangerous for some people Certainly tell them about LCHF but do stress it is not suitable for everyone and if they have other medical issues they should check with their consultant or doctor before embarking on it
I am confused to why a LCHF weight diet seems to be the answer to the long term control to Diabetes. High fat and heart problems comes more to mind
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