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<blockquote data-quote="jjraak" data-source="post: 2137340" data-attributes="member: 493719"><p>i attended, but it took so long to get an appointment i was already dabbling in LCHF.</p><p>so i was more aware then many and found it nice to be with fellow suferers, but the info conflicted with so much i had read.</p><p></p><p>i seemed to be one of few making points and asking for clarification,</p><p>which at first seemed welcomed, but as the day progressed it seemed easier to not disrupt the script.</p><p>it was an otherwise willing audience, all discussing how much carbs they eat and love and how they MIGHT cut down... IF they had to.</p><p></p><p>Me ...i was already out the door mentally, dismissing most of what was said.</p><p>i'd tried the eatwell for 6 weeks and it failed me, as i got worse., LCHF was my new hope.</p><p></p><p>i did stay at end of second session, thanked the two educators, who were much more relaxed about talking of other methods.</p><p>i had mentioned about DCUK, and had desperately tried to engage the others to simply take a look at forum.</p><p>i don't think any did, as i left my user name ..and none have posted me yet. (nov 2018)</p><p></p><p>The educators listened but seem pretty dismissive and i think the quote was :"they are obsessed with low carbs."</p><p>i didn't have the confidence or knowledge i have now, to engage and defend the forum or LCHF.</p><p></p><p>the point isn't that they educate to a low standard...lowest common denominator.</p><p>( i'd say the script is pre determined form above, they seem to have little leeway or input into the course structural format )</p><p>it was the lack of acknowledgement that their MIGHT be another way.</p><p></p><p>i still find it incredible that a way of eating, proven by ONE medical practise, extolled by so many on here, not just today but over many years, to return most to prediabetic if not normal BG levels, isn't take in hand,</p><p>examined and rolled out as an alternative choice at least.</p><p></p><p>yet the ND IS...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite16" alt=":banghead:" title="Bang Head :banghead:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":banghead:" /></p><p></p><p>I find that infuriating and sad.</p><p></p><p>in my mind that's almost Neglect, no matter how others like to dress it up.</p><p></p><p>Can anyone think of another disease that has an alternative treatment, that outperforms the standard by such a magnitude, does it over many years, yet the main treatment is STILL the Failed one, proven over decades, and the alternative seems almost forbidden to talk about ?</p><p></p><p>No, me neither.</p><p></p><p>Neglect, i rest my case..</p><p>Your witness.my learned friends</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jjraak, post: 2137340, member: 493719"] i attended, but it took so long to get an appointment i was already dabbling in LCHF. so i was more aware then many and found it nice to be with fellow suferers, but the info conflicted with so much i had read. i seemed to be one of few making points and asking for clarification, which at first seemed welcomed, but as the day progressed it seemed easier to not disrupt the script. it was an otherwise willing audience, all discussing how much carbs they eat and love and how they MIGHT cut down... IF they had to. Me ...i was already out the door mentally, dismissing most of what was said. i'd tried the eatwell for 6 weeks and it failed me, as i got worse., LCHF was my new hope. i did stay at end of second session, thanked the two educators, who were much more relaxed about talking of other methods. i had mentioned about DCUK, and had desperately tried to engage the others to simply take a look at forum. i don't think any did, as i left my user name ..and none have posted me yet. (nov 2018) The educators listened but seem pretty dismissive and i think the quote was :"they are obsessed with low carbs." i didn't have the confidence or knowledge i have now, to engage and defend the forum or LCHF. the point isn't that they educate to a low standard...lowest common denominator. ( i'd say the script is pre determined form above, they seem to have little leeway or input into the course structural format ) it was the lack of acknowledgement that their MIGHT be another way. i still find it incredible that a way of eating, proven by ONE medical practise, extolled by so many on here, not just today but over many years, to return most to prediabetic if not normal BG levels, isn't take in hand, examined and rolled out as an alternative choice at least. yet the ND IS...:banghead: I find that infuriating and sad. in my mind that's almost Neglect, no matter how others like to dress it up. Can anyone think of another disease that has an alternative treatment, that outperforms the standard by such a magnitude, does it over many years, yet the main treatment is STILL the Failed one, proven over decades, and the alternative seems almost forbidden to talk about ? No, me neither. Neglect, i rest my case.. Your witness.my learned friends [/QUOTE]
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