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Type 2 Liver Dumps

kevin hogg

Well-Known Member
Messages
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
How on earth do I stop my liver dumping glucose on me in the morning
Getting reading in the 7s so frustrating in the evening get down to 5.7 by diet only lchf.
 
kevin hogg said:
How on earth do I stop my liver dumping glucose on me in the morning
Getting reading in the 7s so frustrating in the evening get down to 5.7 by diet only lchf.
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As people are forever saying on here, we're all different. Some can improve their morning fasting bg by avoiding eating a large meal too near to bedtime. Some can do it by eating a small snack just before bed. Some people never can do it, despite getting low readings at all other times. Metformin may be a help. Well done on the LCHF. Rises after meals are probably more important than fasting bg. Don't forget, the fattier the meal, the longer it may take for digestion and for your bg to rise, so the longer the gap there needs to be before bed.
 
kevin hogg said:
How on earth do I stop my liver dumping glucose on me in the morning
Getting reading in the 7s so frustrating in the evening get down to 5.7 by diet only lchf.
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Unfortunately there is no way to stop the old liver dump. Its your body getting us ready for the day ahead
 
I am of the opinion that whether you eat a hearty meal in the late evening or not it is history by morning. I say this because Dawn Phenomena happens in all of us, Diabetes or no Diabetes. It may make a difference if you are one who has a condition causing very slow stomach digestion.

I have read of members who say that they wake, test and then have a bite to eat and this stems the rise of bg levels due to DP. Fasting levels are tricky and the effects of insulin resistance play such a big part in this that only time and good management improve this splurge and turn it into a gentler trickle.
 
Pretty much everyone has a liver dump to some degree regardless whether they have diabetes or not. It is useful to give us the energy to start the day: it is the way a healthy liver works.
The difference between someone with a fully working pancreas and most of this on this forum is the fully working pancreas can react to the liver dump and maintain steady BG whereas someone with diabetes will see their BG rise.

With diabetes, we are looking for ways for our body (with external assistance) to react to the liver dump with some insulin.
For someone with type 1 this may be to wake up and inject insulin at 4am.
As @Alexandra100 says, people find different ways to manage it with type 2.
 
kevin hogg said:
How on earth do I stop my liver dumping glucose on me in the morning
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You Liver tends to start this annoying habit on the day you are born, and stops on the day you die.

Logically, other than bringing the latter event forward unnecessarily, the best way to reduce the impact is to reduce the amount of excess BG that ends up being stored there. It won't happen quickly, but by following a LC diet you should get there eventually.

Until then I would celebrate the fact that your body is still working properly, and doesn't appear to want to stop doing so.
 
kevin hogg said:
How on earth do I stop my liver dumping glucose on me in the morning
Getting reading in the 7s so frustrating in the evening get down to 5.7 by diet only lchf.
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How long have you been low carbing? took me a good 6 months before FBG lowered significantly..
 
bulkbiker said:
How long have you been low carbing? took me a good 6 months before FBG lowered significantly..
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2,1/2 years it started about 6 months ago and the high readings carry on til mid afternoon when they drop down a lot
 
kevin hogg said:
2,1/2 years it started about 6 months ago and the high readings carry on til mid afternoon when they drop down a lot
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If the high readings carry on for most of the day, I'd try dropping your carb intake lower. Are you testing before and 2 hours after meals? How big a rise are you seeing? Would you like to describe a typical day, with food intake and readings?
 
I have been diagnosed diabetic since 2009 type 2 I have a lover dump every morning that sends my BGs up to 10 ,by afternoon I am back to 5-6 .I have tried every thing known to man woman child cat dog and probably Elephant !! The only thing left is Hari Kari
Carol (skinny type 2. )
 
To experience a lover dump every morning you must have an extremely turbulent love life!!! Perhaps the stress of it all is raising your bgs.
 
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I'll let my husband know !!!
Must learn to check predictive text I shall leave it to teach me a lesson
Carol
 
carty said:
I'll let my husband know !!!
Must learn to check predictive text I shall leave it to teach me a lesson
Carol
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Predictive text drove me insane until I found out how to switch it off. I have quite enough trouble with my own typing errors.
 
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