CarerOfType1
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Is anyone familiar with how the German medical insurance covers diabetes 1. I have been offered a job in Germany so my husband and I are considering moving there. My husband will look for work upon arrival but this may take up to 6 months. I know medical insurance is mandatory there but can anyone shed light on how it would work, what we could expect and what I could organise through my new employer. My husband has Type 1, using Levemir and NovoRapid and Freestyle Libre, we are currently living in the UK where all medication is covered under the NHS except the Freestyle Libre. Thanks in advance.
No probs, hopefully i can help.........I'll tag @Wurst here, as he is in Germany, and T1 also, I believe. Apologies for hailing you Wurst, but I think you're probably best placed to comment.
When are we all moving to Germany? Wow!One other plus side is if you are T1 and on MDI , injecting > 4 times per day is you qualify for the schwerbehindertenausweis grad 50%, which is effectively stating you are disabled due to lifestyle restrictions. This has certain benefits such as 1 week extra vacation per year, tax breaks, no overtime/on call (unless you specifically insist on doing it) and bizarrely it can even get discount on new cars in some cases 30 % off.
No probs, hopefully i can help.........
I've lived in Germany for 14 years now , 4 of which as a T1. Health insurance is mandatory as you rightly state, typically your employer contributes half and you contribute the other half and is taken directly from you monthly wage. There are two types Private and Public(state) ,where private is considerably more expensive and has some benefits over Public.
I'm on the public system I and it covers my whole family. I have never had any issues with my insurer over diabetes or other medical problems (mainly leg injuries), they pay for all my insulin , test strips , needles etc etc. I'd say 90 % of doctors I have encountered speak English so language is normally not a problem. I cannot get a CGM as I have pretty good control and these are typically reserved for patients with poor control over long periods and I'm not sure if your freestyle libre would be covered here.
I can't compare it against the UK system as I have never experienced the national health wrt diabetes. One thing that is a pain here is dental , the mandatory health insurance only covers very basic dental problems , I recently had a double root canal and am awaiting the bill :-(
One other plus side is if you are T1 and on MDI , injecting > 4 times per day is you qualify for the schwerbehindertenausweis grad 50%, which is effectively stating you are disabled due to lifestyle restrictions. This has certain benefits such as 1 week extra vacation per year, tax breaks, no overtime/on call (unless you specifically insist on doing it) and bizarrely it can even get discount on new cars in some cases 30 % off.
Let me know if have any specific questions , where in Germany will you be residing ?
Thanks Wurst. That looks like a really excellent starting point for the OP.
I really enjoyed my time living in Germany, although it was a few moons ago now.
Nice , where did you live in Germany?
I'll tag @Wurst here, as he is in Germany, and T1 also, I believe. Apologies for hailing you Wurst, but I think you're probably best placed to comment.
No probs, hopefully i can help.........
I've lived in Germany for 14 years now , 4 of which as a T1. Health insurance is mandatory as you rightly state, typically your employer contributes half and you contribute the other half and is taken directly from you monthly wage. There are two types Private and Public(state) ,where private is considerably more expensive and has some benefits over Public.
I'm on the public system I and it covers my whole family. I have never had any issues with my insurer over diabetes or other medical problems (mainly leg injuries), they pay for all my insulin , test strips , needles etc etc. I'd say 90 % of doctors I have encountered speak English so language is normally not a problem. I cannot get a CGM as I have pretty good control and these are typically reserved for patients with poor control over long periods and I'm not sure if your freestyle libre would be covered here.
I can't compare it against the UK system as I have never experienced the national health wrt diabetes. One thing that is a pain here is dental , the mandatory health insurance only covers very basic dental problems , I recently had a double root canal and am awaiting the bill :-(
One other plus side is if you are T1 and on MDI , injecting > 4 times per day is you qualify for the schwerbehindertenausweis grad 50%, which is effectively stating you are disabled due to lifestyle restrictions. This has certain benefits such as 1 week extra vacation per year, tax breaks, no overtime/on call (unless you specifically insist on doing it) and bizarrely it can even get discount on new cars in some cases 30 % off.
Let me know if have any specific questions , where in Germany will you be residing ?
A few things:
- What should one I expect to contribute for myself and my husband (if that is not confidential) for 1) private 2) public
- Does the diabetes cover increase the cost or is it like a flat fee?
- Not sure if you would know but would my husband still be ok to get the coverage given that he has already been diagnosed?
It's around a 300 per month contribution for the public (mandatory) , that covers my whole family. Private is considerably more , I got a quote around 7-8 years ago so it may not be relevant now.
I pay the same as any other able bodied person and you are not penalized for having diabetes.
Not sure what is meant by the coverage question ? I get HB1AC tests and see my diabetic doctor every 3 months, sometimes 6 months depending on how things are going.
You can get a separate dental insurance at your own cost, the public health insurance provides some basic checkups and cleansing but tends to differ from insurer to insurer. I am currently debating with my insurer that they should pay the dental bill as the infection impacted my blood sugar control.
When I was first diagnosed I had to pay 10% towards my medication i.e insulin & test strips but that seems to have stopped now.
One thing that annoys me about this system is every quarter you need to take your insurance card to the practice in order to get your prescription and there is no automatic repeat prescription, at least not in my practice.
In my experience, the UK seems to have more low carb 'treats' in the shops compared to Germany , such as sugar free jelly , low carb sweets etc etc.
I live in Hessen , near Frankfurt. Bavaria is a really beautiful region, we went through it on the way to Salzburg a few weeks ago, stunning.
Thanks again @Wurst . I am pleased to hear that you are not being penalised by having to pay more for your health insurance due to the diabetes, that sounds like a good and fair policy in Germany. Thanks also for sharing the insurance cost, it's helpful to get a ballpark figure. Is it taken from your monthly wage before tax?
The coverage question referred to if it would be difficult for my husband to get accepted on an insurance scheme because he has already been diagnosed with Type 1. You mentioned that you had been living in Germany for a number of years before getting diagnosed.
Danke!
Your supemarkets have an awful lot of wonderful cheeses and meats, though!In my experience, the UK seems to have more low carb 'treats' in the shops compared to Germany , such as sugar free jelly , low carb sweets etc etc.
And it still makes me want to go to a big German supermarket!Two year old post people...
@Wurst Hi, saw your reply to the post above about "Living in Germany with Diabetis Type 1".
Since my employer, based in Berlin, offered to pay private health insurance, would you recommend Private over Public for a diabetic type 1 person?
Also, some private insurance companies like Ottonova won't accept people with this type of pre-existing condition, could you suggest any of your knowledge, if that's the case?
Thank you very much!!
LT79
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