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<blockquote data-quote="Brunneria" data-source="post: 2120163" data-attributes="member: 41816"><p>Another thing to note is that people have different carb tolerances at different body weights.</p><p></p><p>I believe [USER=510059]@Walking Girl[/USER] underwent a strict weight reduction phase before achieving the current successful blood glucose levels she has whilst on vegetarian/vegan eating.</p><p></p><p>A T2 with a fatty liver and high blood glucose won’t be able to tolerate many carbs.</p><p></p><p>That same person could lose significant weight, de-fatifies their liver, gets normal glucose levels and increased carb tolerance (what is often referred to as ‘reversal’).</p><p></p><p>If they achieve that, then their body will be much more able to tolerate the carbs that are typically present in a vegan way of eating.</p><p></p><p>So basically I suppose I am saying that whatever way of eating we choose, T2s need to factor in their <strong><em>current</em></strong> carb tolerance and goals. If weight loss is wanted, and blood glucose reduction is needed, and a vegan way of eating is desired, then try starting with a vegan keto weight loss regime and reassess carb/keto intake after the weight loss is achieved (and if reversal is achieved).</p><p></p><p>Personally, I would want to know whether I had a fatty liver before I started aiming for reversal by such a programme. My own blood glucose dysregulation is not due to a fatty liver and would not be ‘reversed’ by either weight loss or eating a plant based diet. Indeed my health would deteriorate on such a programme, so I would urge anyone to consider the full ramifications to any major diet change before jumping in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brunneria, post: 2120163, member: 41816"] Another thing to note is that people have different carb tolerances at different body weights. I believe [USER=510059]@Walking Girl[/USER] underwent a strict weight reduction phase before achieving the current successful blood glucose levels she has whilst on vegetarian/vegan eating. A T2 with a fatty liver and high blood glucose won’t be able to tolerate many carbs. That same person could lose significant weight, de-fatifies their liver, gets normal glucose levels and increased carb tolerance (what is often referred to as ‘reversal’). If they achieve that, then their body will be much more able to tolerate the carbs that are typically present in a vegan way of eating. So basically I suppose I am saying that whatever way of eating we choose, T2s need to factor in their [B][I]current[/I][/B] carb tolerance and goals. If weight loss is wanted, and blood glucose reduction is needed, and a vegan way of eating is desired, then try starting with a vegan keto weight loss regime and reassess carb/keto intake after the weight loss is achieved (and if reversal is achieved). Personally, I would want to know whether I had a fatty liver before I started aiming for reversal by such a programme. My own blood glucose dysregulation is not due to a fatty liver and would not be ‘reversed’ by either weight loss or eating a plant based diet. Indeed my health would deteriorate on such a programme, so I would urge anyone to consider the full ramifications to any major diet change before jumping in. [/QUOTE]
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