Squire Fulwood
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I don't want to knock anyone's remedy but there are so many claims made for so many pills and preparations that I couldn't begin to explain how/if any of them work.
I don't want to knock anyone's remedy but there are so many claims made for so many pills and preparations that I couldn't begin to explain how/if any of them work.I like the sense of it but how come xenical/orilstat tablets help people lose weight?
I know it rejects a third of the dietary fat from being absorbed by the body.
If fat alone isn't contributory to weight gain how come this tablet alone's mechanism reduces weight?
Low carb and low fat is making me happy, especially when I get on the scales and weigh less.
I don't know for how long but it would last as long as I eat that way, just the same as lchf would but without the palpatations, for me.
Mind u I've had diabetes for decades not a few months or years.
My sugars were better at first on lchf but once I added more fat they became high again.
Low carb diet definitely works, that is for sure. But adding fat, didn't for me. I must be wired differently.
Low fat definitely helps me loose weight on top of less carbs. Neither works with less only by themselves. It has tobe low carb and low fat for me.
I wish I shed the weight many have on lchf but I never lost once I added the fat element or increased it.
.Most here say you have to eat more fat to make up for the lower carbs but higher fat as you have found out it does not suit everyone.. I have never been a high fat eater even before diabetes my way of eating had always been low/moderate fat and have always been slim all my life I am 78 and now my doctor says I am a bit underweight but I just can't put any weight on When I tried.. against my better judgment I might add.. eating more saturated fats my cholesterol shot up I did not put on any weight and I did not enjoy eating the higher fat stuff anyway so I went back to my low/moderate fats I mostly eat poultry and fish and I usually have lower fat dairy ..not all of it has high sugar... and my good fats mostly come from olive oil, coconut oil some nuts and lots of avocados. I am not a believer that our bodies need saturated fats to be healthy vegetarians and vegans have proved that
Hi Wolfie,
I don't think the two are easily combined. You need plenty of good fats and the right amount of protein on a low carb diet unless you intend to have a Newcastle diet for a time. The weight should drop off you with low carb good fats and one seldom feels hungry. Additionally your BP will come down, particularly if you are salt sensitive and you cut out bread and poor quality salt loaded pies etc. regards Derek
According to Dr. Briffa you can't lose weight easily without eating fat. Fat provokes the hormone Leptin which has the ability to remove triglycerides from the fat cells. People who think that eating fat makes them fat are out of date.
What have your blood glucose levels been like on a daily basis, on WeightWatchers?
If I were you, I would prioritise blood glucose control over weight loss, and for me, that requires low carbing. Once I was comfortable with my blood glucose, I would then turn to weight loss, but many people find that weight reduces without effort when low carbing. Of course, it has to be low enough for the individual, and sometimes that is pretty low. Home blood glucose testing is key in determining personal carb tolerances.
In my opinion, the health benefits of tight glucose control, reduced insulin release, reduced insulin resistance, and improved cholesterol ratios (via low carb) far outweighs the potential benefits of shaving a few points off the BMI (via low calorie)
Have you researched the Newcastle diet? There is plenty about it on these forums if you do a search. It seems to have had good weight loss success and has also resulted in very much improved blood glucose levels and even remission of T2. Briefly it is an 8 week plan consuming 800 calories from carefully controlled meal replacements and one meal a day of mainly vegetables.
Other than that, only low carb will help with blood glucose levels, and as mentioned before, low carb doesn't sit well with low fat.
I believe it is more important to control the blood glucose levels with low carb and look on the weight loss as a bonus. For the majority of people, low carb with higher fats will result in lower blood glucose levels and weight loss.
My experience is that I followed Eat Well plan and low-fat, low calorie regimes and I failed, miserably so. So bad that I was diagnosed as T2 in October.
LCHF diet has enabled me to reduce my weight by 36Kg and HbA1c by 66% in six months. My GP has withdrawn my drugs and tells me I am fully in remission.
Try both is my recommendation (not at same time of course) and see what works best for you.
I did low fat for many years because I thought that was healthy. I gradually got fatter. Now I follow LCHF I am gradually losing weight and my BGs are under control.
If you want to try a VLCD and not use the Newcastle Diet format have a look at the 8 week blood sugar diet by Dr Michael Mosley, it follows a similar 800 calorie format, but uses "real" food, and you will be surprised at just how much you can eat if you can eat if you restrict the carbs, my one word of advise if you choose to try this route is to plan all your meals in advance
From personal experience no contest - low carb, moderate fat with exercise.
A lifetime of low calorie, low fat diets saw me getting fatter, developing fatty liver disease and diabetes.
Totally turned around with LCHF and I feel great!
Hello, I too have intercranial hypertension and had a shunt fitted over 10 years ago, have tried loads of weird and wonderful diets including low fat and following nhs guidelines.
Diagnosed type2 Feb 2017, went Lchf. In a 3 month period have reduced hba1c down to non diabetic levels, reduced cholesterol down form 4.7 to 3.7, lost a stone and a half in weight.
However you must do what is right for you, as others have said, try both and see which suits (although not at the same time)
I know I have to improve on my exercise. Thing is back in 2009 and 2010 I actually lost all my extra weight by eating sensibly and doing basic walking. Then my hubby got ill and I was left to my own devices for 2 months so I gradually put it all back on. I my defence I have bought a treadmill as I feel I'm too 'big' to walk the streets so I will be using that in the bedroom once I move things around for it. I just need motivation
thankyou for your reply
There have been a couple of court cases (Fettke, Noakes and of course Elliot) to do with giving dietary advice when not qualified to do so, therefore I will tell you what I do. I do not eat margarine no matter what it tastes like. I have full grass fed butter but since I can't eat bread I use it to lower the GI of those nice little new potatoes. I have full fat milk but not on cereals which are high carb. I eat berries sometimes but only with extra thick double cream (that's the one you can stand the spoon up in).Hi ty for the heads up on the fat business. I dont have problems with the other part of my cholestrol but I do have a higher reading of triglycerides which the doctor seems to attribute to the fact I like a glass of wine. I know you need some fat but are you suggesting that I abandon a low fat diet and eat fats sensibly? What would you exchange it for? The fats I have in my diet are vegetable oil for cooking and a low fat butter tasting margarine
Thankyou for your reply
There is a satiety switch in the brain that tells you when you are full. This is operated by the hormone released when you eat fat. The signals to this switch are interfered with when you eat too many carbs so you stay hungry. I don't know why we evolved this way but I suppose if the eating was slim and you were reduced to eating leaves and roots then it would be counter productive to stop eating. The carbs in the roots and some stems also get laid down as fat for later.I'm the type of person that has to eat food rather than drink it or I psychologically dont feel full (something that is being dealt with via the lipid clinic)
Low carb and low fat is making me happy, especially when I get on the scales and weigh less.
I don't know for how long but it would last as long as I eat that way, just the same as lchf would but without the palpatations, for me.
Mind u I've had diabetes for decades not a few months or years.
My sugars were better at first on lchf but once I added more fat they became high again.
Low carb diet definitely works, that is for sure. But adding fat, didn't for me. I must be wired differently.
Low fat definitely helps me loose weight on top of less carbs. Neither works with less only by themselves. It has tobe low carb and low fat for me.
I wish I shed the weight many have on lchf but I never lost once I added the fat element or increased it.
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