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Whisperscat

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
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Hi all.

I was diagnosed with a fasting blood test at 6.3 and was sent three weeks later to a diabetic nurse. She told me that the HbA1c is normal at 34. Have I really turned it around in 3 weeks?
Subject line as lurker as I was just reading posts before. So, Hi everyone
 
The Dr sent me for a fasting blood test and he said that came back as 6.3 and was told that was prediabetic range. I have had one fasting and one non fasting
 
Hi welcome to the forum tagging @daisy1 for you.

One fasting test is just not reliable enough to diagnose anything, glad you had a good HBA1C result.

Thank goodness they are no long using fasting plasma glucose tests to diagnose type 2 anymore. Just the stress of the blood test, getting to the hospital without my coffee in the morning and the cost of parking would be enough to raise my fasting levels.

In your situation I would consider myself to not have pre d because you cannot change a HBA1C that much in 3 weeks, what are your thoughts?
 
Hi welcome to the forum tagging @daisy1 for you.

One fasting test is just not reliable enough to diagnose anything, glad you had a good HBA1C result.

Thank goodness they are no long using fasting plasma glucose tests to diagnose type 2 anymore. Just the stress of the blood test, getting to the hospital without my coffee in the morning and the cost of parking would be enough to raise my fasting levels.

In your situation I would consider myself to not have pre d because you cannot change a HBA1C that much in 3 weeks, what are your thoughts?
Hi. Thanks. I literally stopped adding sugar in my coffee, stopped drinking coke, no more starbars or magnum icecream and got that result today. The nurse told me I wasn't now prediabetic but I think its too good to be true.
 
Hi. Thanks. I literally stopped adding sugar in my coffee, stopped drinking coke, no more starbars or magnum icecream and got that result today. The nurse told me I wasn't now prediabetic but I think its too good to be true.

Most likely you were never pre-diabetic in the first place. As mentioned above, a fasting glucose test is not a reliable marker unless followed up by an HbA1c. This is why they are no longer used routinely for diagnosis, and even if they are there has to be two tests on different occasions. Your doctor just told you it was in the pre-diabetic range, which was true, but it did not mean you were pre-diabetic. That's why you had the HbA1c test. That has come back as non-diabetic. You can relax - but keep off the sugar. :)
 
Most likely you were never pre-diabetic in the first place. As mentioned above, a fasting glucose test is not a reliable marker unless followed up by an HbA1c. This is why they are no longer used routinely for diagnosis, and even if they are there has to be two tests on different occasions. Your doctor just told you it was in the pre-diabetic range, which was true, but it did not mean you were pre-diabetic. That's why you had the HbA1c test. That has come back as non-diabetic. You can relax - but keep off the sugar. :)
Thank you Bluetit. You've just made me very, very happy.
 
@Whisperscat

Hello Whisperscat and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Thank you Bluetit. You've just made me very, very happy.
It's definitely cause for celebration. But it would pay to check your blood sugars from time to time in the future, to make sure they aren't creeping up. Since I have a strong family history of diabetes, I have had annual blood tests since my 20s. When I was 40, T2 diabetes was picked up by one of these tests.

If it's not possible to get an annual HbA1c through your GP, then the next best thing is fingerprick testing. The testing strips in a home testing kit expire within 2 years, so it seems a waste of money to only get 1-2 tests out of an expensive container of test strips.

Free or low cost fingerprick tests are often available at pharmacies, community health clinics or special events like a health expo. The possibility of diabetes can be picked up in a "random test" ie non-fasting. At that point the person is recommended to get an HbA1c test done.
 
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