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Med Students given CGM’s to wear for a month: changed their views on nutrition!

I liked this section of the article
"Drawing from students’ open responses, students reported that dietary advice provided to patients is typically “crude,” “cookie-cutter,” “surface level,” “inadequate,” and “prescriptive and not individualized,” and that current standard of advice focused on energy balance and “calories in – calories out” is “oversimplified” and “misleading,” for patients. No students reported satisfaction for the state of nutrition in healthcare."

Nice to see Harvard actually doing a simple sensible proof of concept study. Some of their other nutrition research has been suspect in the past. I hope PHC have a copy of the article. Dr Unwin may be interested in it too.
 
That is a fascinating exercise. And an interesting side note : 9/13 were deficient in vitamin D. Is that because nedical students have no time to go outside in the sun, or a reflection that vitamin D deficinecy is a much more serious problem than I realised....?

Edited to add @finzi1966 thanks very much for sharing this.
 
How many of us get a D3 test? Its not on my record. Who amongst us knows? And who out there in Jo Public Land gets tested? And don't forget, D3 needs K2 and Vit C to be any good.
Again, Harvard is my chosen source tonight
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/vitamin-d/
 
Oldvatr said:
How many of us get a D3 test? Its not on my record.
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I got one from my GP is Australia, I have to pay privately for the same test in New Zealand.
 
EllieM said:
I got one from my GP is Australia, I have to pay privately for the same test in New Zealand.
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I have had several D3 tests here in Australia that were bulk billed by the local pathology lab, to get one now costs money.

I take 2x1000iu capsues each day, as I did not get out in the sun enough when I was working.
 
We might be able to get one on the NHS, but the triage process is quite a hurdle.
https://www.gloshospitals.nhs.uk/ou...tests-and-investigations/25-hydroxyvitamin-d/

My GP refused one for my wife who was housebound, but did prescibe a supplement for her. I was refused the test when I enquired, because I am not bedbound (yet). I am also not eligible for supplementation.

PS supplementation can lead to overdose, which can be fatal apparently.
 
It looks like Dr Robert Cywes was involved. In a recent podcast he told how his weight had soared during his medical training, due to long hours, lack of time to exercise, shop or cook, foods available etc
Seems like little has changed in the 20+ years since he trained
Good idea though, hopefully it will be repeated
 
Oldvatr said:
How many of us get a D3 test? Its not on my record. Who amongst us knows? And who out there in Jo Public Land gets tested?
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I got mine tested when still in Jo Public Land because of a rather bad depression. It was tested again a year later, along with the blood draw diagnosing diabetes

 
It seems many of whom that are tested have less than optimal levels (NOT the same thing a lab reference ranges) for vit D the same as many other levels. The U.K. usually use nmol and the USA ng
 
I had a test in hospital years ago and recently asked the GP for another but was refused.
 
I occasionally buy Vit D tests from NHS Trust Birmingham at a cost of £29. Other trusts do the tests too.
 
I am trying not to be sexist, but I do feel I am at a disadvantage in this. It seems that if there is a suspicion of osteoporosis then the tests are on the NHS, and that condition does have a gender bias. There is also an ageist aspect to the availability of tests on the NHS.
 
Great study! @bulkbiker had posted it here, but this way more people got to see it!

The author, Nick Norwitz is an interesting guy with his own health journey using a ketogenic diet. He’s very active on Twitter and Clubhouse and well worth a follow.

Editing to say I see that @Ronancastled had already mentioned Bulkbiker’s post.
 
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Oldvatr said:
How many of us get a D3 test?
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I’ve had a few as part of the diagnostic process and follow up for Long Covid. My levels are excellent - above the top end of the somewhat conservative NHS range. The last one came in at 237 nMol/L
 
Osteoporosis has a gender bias insofar as it is women who are more likely to get it. As someone with osteopenia, I assure you that this is not a gender advantage! You chaps are welcome to it!
 
andromache said:
Osteoporosis has a gender bias insofar as it is women who are more likely to get it. As someone with osteopenia, I assure you that this is not a gender advantage! You chaps are welcome to it!
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I don't see many men posting Vit D test results.
 
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