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medication and sugar levels?

Fully T

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi there,

I have recently started taking Gabapentin for Neuropathy in my arm and legs however since then my sugar levels have been a little all over the place, does anyone else have this problem, I'm T2 and have been now for about a year and half.
Bit worrying as each time I mention it to my docs they just seem to dismiss it!!!
Thanks and look forward to hearing soon.
Tracey
 

High Fully T.

I don't know what Gabapentin does to sugar levels but I've heard plenty of other bad things about it.

To concentrate on your BG's first though, what diabetes medication are you on and what are you eating on an average day? What are your BG numbers now?

@daisy1 has some very useful reading material if you have some time to spare.
 
@Fully T

Hello Tracey and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will be helpful to you in controlling your sugars. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi there,
Thanks for replying, I didn't know there were other bad things about this medication - oh well......
I take 160mg Gliclazide and 500mg metformin, I don't over eat at all, i have my breakfast (porridge) before work, then my lunch which is usually salad, or pasta or a sandwich with brown bread, I don't have chocolate but the odd bag of crisps, then my tea in the evening but then I sometimes don't have that at I feel nauseas from the day......I have quite a fat free diet too, I don't drink or smoke. I haven't done my bloods today.

Thank you for coming back to me.
 
Hi. It sounds like you could usefully reduce your carb intake a bit. Porridge can cause sugar levels to spike. Try egg and bacon or oats with cold milk as mueslt? Don't worry about fats. Despite what we have been wrongly told fats don't make you fat or affect blood cholesterol to any degree. I can't comment on the Gabapentin. Try to avoid crsips but do have 85% dark chocolate if you like that instead as a snack.
 
Hi again Fully T
Carbohydrates turn to sugar once you've eaten them so generally speaking it's useful to think about reducing your intake of foods like bread, pasta, rice and potato. You can substitute with more eggs, meat, nuts, vegetables, cheese without causing your blood sugars to surge too highly.

Some people find that metformin has unpleasant side effects. You may find it beneficial to talk to your medical people as there is a slow release form of metformin available that can help to reduce or even eliminate these effects.
 
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