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<blockquote data-quote="NicoleC1971" data-source="post: 2119236" data-attributes="member: 365308"><p>Hi </p><p>Can you send the link to the research as it is hard to understand on what basis they are drawing such a conclusion. Their conclusion would in any case be a hypothesis that is unproven.</p><p>Re tight control not reducing disease progression that may refer to those studies done 10 years ago (Accord etc.) wherein diabetics who were tightly controlled with drugs/insulin did not reduce their disease and did just as badly as type 2s who were less rigorous with their bgs i.e. same rates of macro vessel damage.</p><p>What Jason Fung is reall6y saying is that both insulin and gluscose must be tightly controlled to stop diabetes progressing and that this can only be done by restricting carbs or fasting or bariatric surgery.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NicoleC1971, post: 2119236, member: 365308"] Hi Can you send the link to the research as it is hard to understand on what basis they are drawing such a conclusion. Their conclusion would in any case be a hypothesis that is unproven. Re tight control not reducing disease progression that may refer to those studies done 10 years ago (Accord etc.) wherein diabetics who were tightly controlled with drugs/insulin did not reduce their disease and did just as badly as type 2s who were less rigorous with their bgs i.e. same rates of macro vessel damage. What Jason Fung is reall6y saying is that both insulin and gluscose must be tightly controlled to stop diabetes progressing and that this can only be done by restricting carbs or fasting or bariatric surgery. [/QUOTE]
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