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<blockquote data-quote="pollensa" data-source="post: 1532728"><p>Hello from Mallorca</p><p></p><p>I note you put forth cut off level guidelines from Nice which I have no doubt are as quoted, however, my million dollar question to everyone out there, especially those who are frantically daily 1,2,3,6,7, or even more times a day who testing</p><p>really questioned "ARE THE CUT OFF LEVELS 100%% I raise this to attention, as the Nice as quoted within, state one</p><p>set of cut offs, other diabetes Associations in UK quote other, in New Zealand for Example, their Cut off for A1C is 50mmol/mol 6.7% to allow diagnosis of Diabetes with classic symptoms, without symptoms 2 tests required, prior to diagnosis, UK and Spain are 6.5%. </p><p></p><p>Surely, based on the vast variations of what are supposed to be cut off levels that one uses as a guide is quite concerning, you may have a result that your under a false impression is either good or bad.</p><p></p><p>All cut offs Which by the way are acknowledged by ADA and The Who, are arbitrary levels decided upon lessened by so called expert committee with no 100% clinical or medical support evidence regards the final cut off levels worldwide, that is frightening, and what is more frightening, even the ADA and their Endos cannot agree on what should be cut off for A1C regards Pre Diabetes. If the experts cannot agree, and cut offs Finger Real Blood Testing that vary worldwide, i.e.it depends where you are time of diagnosis for example.</p><p></p><p>I do not trust the arbitrary figures in place by the Diabetes World, as they are only random, at whim choice, the lower the numbers the more people are prescribed drugs and other. I feel it is an appalling situation overallwithin the medical and Diabetes World, generally, they should be ashamed to allow such variations, of cut off numbers, some say</p><p>on, some say up to and including, some say over, for goodness sake, we will all go or are going a little crazy, there should be</p><p>one cut off that the world follows a strict guideline for A1C and Finger Testing numbers, that number is backed by clinical and medical evidence as to why that is the cut off threshold figure.</p><p></p><p>Until that takes place, I don't check my fingers, only perhaps 1 every three months, and A1C yearly, why, to give example.</p><p>Here in Spain I fall under Diabetic as my A1C is 6.5%, yet if I hope on the plane back home to New Zealand I fall under their pragmatic sensible Diabetes system viewing, as Pre Diabetes, with recommendations, change lifestyle, eating, and exercise.</p><p></p><p>When I test every 3 months, guess what, my numbers are consistent, and more or less one number higher or lower as 3 months previous, last test fasting mode, 86mg/dl 2 hour after eat 89mg/dl Random anytime after eat 91mg/dl</p><p></p><p>Yes, the system/s and diabetes world have cut offs, but the DOUBT QUESTION remains sadly, are they correct, just because they state a number, that does not mean its correct, we are ultimately the ones to look after our bodies, and do some research,</p><p>don't always believe or follow recommended guidelines, listen to your body and use common sense is one of the best</p><p>recommendations at the end of the day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pollensa, post: 1532728"] Hello from Mallorca I note you put forth cut off level guidelines from Nice which I have no doubt are as quoted, however, my million dollar question to everyone out there, especially those who are frantically daily 1,2,3,6,7, or even more times a day who testing really questioned "ARE THE CUT OFF LEVELS 100%% I raise this to attention, as the Nice as quoted within, state one set of cut offs, other diabetes Associations in UK quote other, in New Zealand for Example, their Cut off for A1C is 50mmol/mol 6.7% to allow diagnosis of Diabetes with classic symptoms, without symptoms 2 tests required, prior to diagnosis, UK and Spain are 6.5%. Surely, based on the vast variations of what are supposed to be cut off levels that one uses as a guide is quite concerning, you may have a result that your under a false impression is either good or bad. All cut offs Which by the way are acknowledged by ADA and The Who, are arbitrary levels decided upon lessened by so called expert committee with no 100% clinical or medical support evidence regards the final cut off levels worldwide, that is frightening, and what is more frightening, even the ADA and their Endos cannot agree on what should be cut off for A1C regards Pre Diabetes. If the experts cannot agree, and cut offs Finger Real Blood Testing that vary worldwide, i.e.it depends where you are time of diagnosis for example. I do not trust the arbitrary figures in place by the Diabetes World, as they are only random, at whim choice, the lower the numbers the more people are prescribed drugs and other. I feel it is an appalling situation overallwithin the medical and Diabetes World, generally, they should be ashamed to allow such variations, of cut off numbers, some say on, some say up to and including, some say over, for goodness sake, we will all go or are going a little crazy, there should be one cut off that the world follows a strict guideline for A1C and Finger Testing numbers, that number is backed by clinical and medical evidence as to why that is the cut off threshold figure. Until that takes place, I don't check my fingers, only perhaps 1 every three months, and A1C yearly, why, to give example. Here in Spain I fall under Diabetic as my A1C is 6.5%, yet if I hope on the plane back home to New Zealand I fall under their pragmatic sensible Diabetes system viewing, as Pre Diabetes, with recommendations, change lifestyle, eating, and exercise. When I test every 3 months, guess what, my numbers are consistent, and more or less one number higher or lower as 3 months previous, last test fasting mode, 86mg/dl 2 hour after eat 89mg/dl Random anytime after eat 91mg/dl Yes, the system/s and diabetes world have cut offs, but the DOUBT QUESTION remains sadly, are they correct, just because they state a number, that does not mean its correct, we are ultimately the ones to look after our bodies, and do some research, don't always believe or follow recommended guidelines, listen to your body and use common sense is one of the best recommendations at the end of the day. [/QUOTE]
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