forge
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I am going to discuss hospital food and how it changed my attitude to how I discuss my T2 diet and what I eat now..
I tripped over a steel peg so I needed surgery and was in hospital for a week and I control my T2 with diet and tabs and some exercise. I was allocated a GP to look after my "other health issue" including my T2 and heart issues (plus a pacemaker) and gout.
I control my gout with diet and no meds and my heart issues with diet and meds.
My first meal post-op was chosen for me and after that I chose from the menu for each day. My post-op meal was mixed sandwiches and an apple which was fine except I usually do not eat bread, too much cheese, or processed meat and I only eat limited fruit..
It was a major private hospital so the menu was creative with some names but it was not helpful for deciding lo-carb choices.
On Day 2 I had a visit from my Endo who I had not seen for 3 years since he got me off JABS and onto TABS and he was amazed at my control results and the dietitian turned up and as most of us know re T2 there is a conflict between old school diet and new school diet.
Anyway, the end result was the Dietitian was helpful and told me to write MODIFIED CARBS on my menu selections and that I could choose things that are not on the Menu on that particular day. So the longer I stayed the more choices I became aware of that they might have available.
Basically I was getting no exercise and I was eating less but my BS control was OK and my wife brought in some lowish carb almond nut bars (11 carbs per bar with choc coating) that helped too.
My experience with T2 forums is they have many pedantic posters about lo-carb and even hi-fat and they are adamant about this that and the other. My hospital experience tho was one of "compromise and adapting" and being a pedant was not going to do anything other than send my blood pressure and pulse rate into the crisis range.
So there it is folks, my advice is forget talking about our lo-carb diets and start talking about modified carb diets - pedants can go "suck eggs" if they choose. The pedants may or may not be distressing over their lo-carb (even LCHF) meanwhile sensible MCs (Modified Carbers) can enjoy a selective diet based on what is readily available, with an awareness of carbs but without counting carbs.
"What a lot of rubbish!!" the pedants will say. But the pedants should reflect on the long term mental issues we all face, as they will find in this forum's posts.
Now I am back home we buy plain Greek yoghurt and artificially sweeten it ( a trick I learned in hospital) and of course no spuds or bread or grain related food. But I do eat plenty of nuts and use nut flours and SR flour and fake sugar (what I call 3 flour mix) to reduce baked goods carbs by more than 80%.
By being selective (modified carbs diet and not being pedantic) I can even eat out at McDonalds. One of Maccas expensive burgers is about 45 carbs but I could refrain from eating the top half of the bread roll I could make it even lower. Black coffee with fake sugar is about zero carbs and their SOFT serve ice cream cone is 22 carbs.
Modified carbs is really about eating and remaining within the control of our meds and in the example above with poor selection at Maccas the carb count could be 150 and with modified carb choices it could be as low as 35 carbs.
The food chains advertise their food likely carb count online
So T2 readers there is a life for us that can be fun if we make a hobby of selecting carbs from prepared food choices and make a hobby of lo-carb cooking.
Add 4 items to your shopping list
1) Coconut flour
2) Almond meal
3) Xanthan gum
4) Fake sugar that survives the heat from cooking
Use them diligently to make modified carb sweet and tasty foods (not necessarily no carb or lo-carb)
I tripped over a steel peg so I needed surgery and was in hospital for a week and I control my T2 with diet and tabs and some exercise. I was allocated a GP to look after my "other health issue" including my T2 and heart issues (plus a pacemaker) and gout.
I control my gout with diet and no meds and my heart issues with diet and meds.
My first meal post-op was chosen for me and after that I chose from the menu for each day. My post-op meal was mixed sandwiches and an apple which was fine except I usually do not eat bread, too much cheese, or processed meat and I only eat limited fruit..
It was a major private hospital so the menu was creative with some names but it was not helpful for deciding lo-carb choices.
On Day 2 I had a visit from my Endo who I had not seen for 3 years since he got me off JABS and onto TABS and he was amazed at my control results and the dietitian turned up and as most of us know re T2 there is a conflict between old school diet and new school diet.
Anyway, the end result was the Dietitian was helpful and told me to write MODIFIED CARBS on my menu selections and that I could choose things that are not on the Menu on that particular day. So the longer I stayed the more choices I became aware of that they might have available.
Basically I was getting no exercise and I was eating less but my BS control was OK and my wife brought in some lowish carb almond nut bars (11 carbs per bar with choc coating) that helped too.
My experience with T2 forums is they have many pedantic posters about lo-carb and even hi-fat and they are adamant about this that and the other. My hospital experience tho was one of "compromise and adapting" and being a pedant was not going to do anything other than send my blood pressure and pulse rate into the crisis range.
So there it is folks, my advice is forget talking about our lo-carb diets and start talking about modified carb diets - pedants can go "suck eggs" if they choose. The pedants may or may not be distressing over their lo-carb (even LCHF) meanwhile sensible MCs (Modified Carbers) can enjoy a selective diet based on what is readily available, with an awareness of carbs but without counting carbs.
"What a lot of rubbish!!" the pedants will say. But the pedants should reflect on the long term mental issues we all face, as they will find in this forum's posts.
Now I am back home we buy plain Greek yoghurt and artificially sweeten it ( a trick I learned in hospital) and of course no spuds or bread or grain related food. But I do eat plenty of nuts and use nut flours and SR flour and fake sugar (what I call 3 flour mix) to reduce baked goods carbs by more than 80%.
By being selective (modified carbs diet and not being pedantic) I can even eat out at McDonalds. One of Maccas expensive burgers is about 45 carbs but I could refrain from eating the top half of the bread roll I could make it even lower. Black coffee with fake sugar is about zero carbs and their SOFT serve ice cream cone is 22 carbs.
Modified carbs is really about eating and remaining within the control of our meds and in the example above with poor selection at Maccas the carb count could be 150 and with modified carb choices it could be as low as 35 carbs.
The food chains advertise their food likely carb count online
So T2 readers there is a life for us that can be fun if we make a hobby of selecting carbs from prepared food choices and make a hobby of lo-carb cooking.
Add 4 items to your shopping list
1) Coconut flour
2) Almond meal
3) Xanthan gum
4) Fake sugar that survives the heat from cooking
Use them diligently to make modified carb sweet and tasty foods (not necessarily no carb or lo-carb)