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<blockquote data-quote="Celsus" data-source="post: 1584374" data-attributes="member: 185674"><p>Thank you all,</p><p>[USER=41816]@Brunneria[/USER], [USER=41957]@librarising[/USER], [USER=88828]@Sable_Jan[/USER], [USER=345386]@DCUKMod[/USER] and [USER=28128]@maria030660[/USER] !</p><p></p><p>Changing insulin types/brands is of course an inconvenience but not really that hard if one has to. Don't no why I didn't do it earlier, as if that would do the trick then that would be the easiest cure to feel great again I ever could imagine! (don't know still if I really believe it can be that, but from all your testimonies I have to give an honest try. ;o) Read also a couple of studies where very few T1s had indeed been on Lantus for even up to 8 and 10 years duration with no issue and then suddenly started to experience similar malaise I have described. And that they after going off Lantus felt these went away. I have actually taken Lantus probably now for 15 years, so strange to think about actually. But yes, I changed beginning of this last weekend, so now I am no longer a sworn NoveRapid/Lantus lover, but gone to the 'arch enemies', using Lilly's Humalog and the Novo Levemir. Suppose I should give it at least 3 months or so before judging the result? </p><p></p><p>[USER=28128]@maria030660[/USER], did you experience the pain when using Lantus from the very beginning or it didn't appear until after you had used it for weeks, months, or? So for how long did you use it before experiencing the pain and how quickly after you stopped did the pain go away? And I suppose you mean generic body/muscle pain/fatigue and not specific related to the injection site? I am aware that some unfortunate diabetics have experienced such local site complications with both Lantus and Levemir. </p><p></p><p>[USER=41957]@librarising[/USER], I did get all vitamins and minerals checked out, so though some at lowish levels, it was really only the B12 and especially the D vitamins that really needed a boost to get into 'healthy levels'. I have also since then started to take a standard cover-all multi vitamin/mineral pill on a daily basis. Nutritional uptake is of course poorer with age but think I get what I need now of those. Subsequent blood analysis have confirmed certainly for the B12 and D vitamins. </p><p></p><p>[USER=345386]@DCUKMod[/USER] and [USER=88828]@Sable_Jan[/USER], I cannot recall the reasoning by the neurologist and the rheumatologist for discarding the idea it could be Fibromyalgia or the Celiac? I think it was potentially because I did not have any raised inflammation markers in my system and certainly until recently I did not appear to have pain or stiffness in joints or ligaments. And no connection to worsening pain after hard exercises (payback), which I think FM would give? Your explanations of false negatives makes me of course intrigued if I have to go back and challenge them again regarding those specific potential diseases. </p><p></p><p>Strange thing is that with the symptoms I have and going to bed tonight, I cannot say with any certainty if it will be better tomorrow or worse. But it does change and then 'stabilizes' for shorter or longer periods of time, going from ok to worse or from worse to better, which also puzzles me a great deal. As no apparent connection to what I do, eat, bg, weather or anything else. I definitely promise to come back and shout it out loud and clear if getting off the Lantus clears the matter!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celsus, post: 1584374, member: 185674"] Thank you all, [USER=41816]@Brunneria[/USER], [USER=41957]@librarising[/USER], [USER=88828]@Sable_Jan[/USER], [USER=345386]@DCUKMod[/USER] and [USER=28128]@maria030660[/USER] ! Changing insulin types/brands is of course an inconvenience but not really that hard if one has to. Don't no why I didn't do it earlier, as if that would do the trick then that would be the easiest cure to feel great again I ever could imagine! (don't know still if I really believe it can be that, but from all your testimonies I have to give an honest try. ;o) Read also a couple of studies where very few T1s had indeed been on Lantus for even up to 8 and 10 years duration with no issue and then suddenly started to experience similar malaise I have described. And that they after going off Lantus felt these went away. I have actually taken Lantus probably now for 15 years, so strange to think about actually. But yes, I changed beginning of this last weekend, so now I am no longer a sworn NoveRapid/Lantus lover, but gone to the 'arch enemies', using Lilly's Humalog and the Novo Levemir. Suppose I should give it at least 3 months or so before judging the result? [USER=28128]@maria030660[/USER], did you experience the pain when using Lantus from the very beginning or it didn't appear until after you had used it for weeks, months, or? So for how long did you use it before experiencing the pain and how quickly after you stopped did the pain go away? And I suppose you mean generic body/muscle pain/fatigue and not specific related to the injection site? I am aware that some unfortunate diabetics have experienced such local site complications with both Lantus and Levemir. [USER=41957]@librarising[/USER], I did get all vitamins and minerals checked out, so though some at lowish levels, it was really only the B12 and especially the D vitamins that really needed a boost to get into 'healthy levels'. I have also since then started to take a standard cover-all multi vitamin/mineral pill on a daily basis. Nutritional uptake is of course poorer with age but think I get what I need now of those. Subsequent blood analysis have confirmed certainly for the B12 and D vitamins. [USER=345386]@DCUKMod[/USER] and [USER=88828]@Sable_Jan[/USER], I cannot recall the reasoning by the neurologist and the rheumatologist for discarding the idea it could be Fibromyalgia or the Celiac? I think it was potentially because I did not have any raised inflammation markers in my system and certainly until recently I did not appear to have pain or stiffness in joints or ligaments. And no connection to worsening pain after hard exercises (payback), which I think FM would give? Your explanations of false negatives makes me of course intrigued if I have to go back and challenge them again regarding those specific potential diseases. Strange thing is that with the symptoms I have and going to bed tonight, I cannot say with any certainty if it will be better tomorrow or worse. But it does change and then 'stabilizes' for shorter or longer periods of time, going from ok to worse or from worse to better, which also puzzles me a great deal. As no apparent connection to what I do, eat, bg, weather or anything else. I definitely promise to come back and shout it out loud and clear if getting off the Lantus clears the matter!! ;) [/QUOTE]
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