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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 1934433" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>How did you get this info since it is not mentioned in any formal report I have seen, and has also not been mentioned by those here who took part in some of the trials. I think that if they are indeed using ketosis intentionally, then this would kill their support from the NHS, nutritionists, doctors, and everyone providing care for diabetics, in the same way that LC diets get pilloried. They cannot afford to admit any link to ketosis,</p><p></p><p>The testing for ketosis on a regular basis is an expense that they did not need to control their protocol, and c-peptide tests or insulin clamp tests would be prohibitive for large scale rollout, and again it was not necessary for their protocol. Don't forget that originslly the aim was simply to mimic bariatric surgery to find a cheaper non invasive alternative for further research. They needed to show that diabetes symptoms are reduced by the protocol, but they were surprised at the success they had, Now DIRECT is the first chance they have of really getting to grips with it, but it seems that they are still just looking for the bariatric replacement, and a way to mass produce the protocol, hence setting up their own company to run it. They've sold out to commercial interests IMO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 1934433, member: 196898"] How did you get this info since it is not mentioned in any formal report I have seen, and has also not been mentioned by those here who took part in some of the trials. I think that if they are indeed using ketosis intentionally, then this would kill their support from the NHS, nutritionists, doctors, and everyone providing care for diabetics, in the same way that LC diets get pilloried. They cannot afford to admit any link to ketosis, The testing for ketosis on a regular basis is an expense that they did not need to control their protocol, and c-peptide tests or insulin clamp tests would be prohibitive for large scale rollout, and again it was not necessary for their protocol. Don't forget that originslly the aim was simply to mimic bariatric surgery to find a cheaper non invasive alternative for further research. They needed to show that diabetes symptoms are reduced by the protocol, but they were surprised at the success they had, Now DIRECT is the first chance they have of really getting to grips with it, but it seems that they are still just looking for the bariatric replacement, and a way to mass produce the protocol, hence setting up their own company to run it. They've sold out to commercial interests IMO [/QUOTE]
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