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<blockquote data-quote="EricTCat" data-source="post: 214396" data-attributes="member: 36905"><p><strong>Re: Nebido injections for low testosterone in type two diabe</strong></p><p></p><p>I am a 47 year old male, a Type II diabetic treated with Exenatide and Lantus injections. My Testosterone levels are very low and as a result have been having Nebido injections for the last 18 months. I am on a ten week injection cycle. </p><p></p><p>For me the results are non-existent and to no effect whatsoever. It has had no noticeable effect on my testosterone levels, which continue to fall, reducing from 8.1 nmol/l to 5.5 nmol/l (sorry if these are the wrong units, I focus more on the falling numbers). </p><p></p><p>As for side effects I am noticeably more "angry" and "moody", and my head hair is falling out. My facial hair growth has reduced noticeably and while I was never hairy on the body I seem to be less hairy than ever. My sleep patterns are shot to hell, and I do get the odd bouts of lower leg cramps, and night sweats. Additionally I have found my bowels have been "upset" since I went onto injections, and there is a lot more laundry to be done. The effect on my libido has been non-existent, and I have not had any of the positive side effects, my wife should be so lucky!</p><p></p><p>Any concerns raised with the GP are routinely ignored, and attempts to see the endocrinologist are sabotaged by my GP. I struggle to get the GP to take regular blood tests to monitor my testosterone levels and had to demand tests to get my PSA levels tested to see if my prostate gland was OK. The GP service is appalling, and there is no realistic chance of involvement or help from my GP. </p><p></p><p>The Hospital services are better, and the specific endocrinologist I see is very skilled and helpful, although I insist on seeing the same consultant for both diabetes and endocrinology to ensure a tied up level of service delivery. </p><p></p><p>I live within the bounds of the Hull and East Yorkshire Area Health Authority and I am not impressed. When I lived in the West Yorkshire area, specifically Bradford, my treatment regime, the courtesy, and the level of interest shown by the medical authorities was much better. If we could afford to move back to West Yorkshire I would be going purely for the improvement in medical care.</p><p></p><p>To present I have been tested for across my HPGA axis, my hypothalamus seems to be ok, my pituitary function seems to be impaired, my gonadal function is ok, and my adrenal glands seem to alright. I am going to have to insist on a scan of my head to check for tumours as all the results from various tests always come up inconclusive or contrary to previous results.</p><p></p><p>One disturbing side effect I, and others, have noticed in me is that my fight or flight reflex has vanished. On several occasions I have stood up to bullies and boors where previously I would have shied away from trouble. I have got up in a crowded coffee bar, walked across the room and told someone who was ranting at an innocent couple to sit down and behave like an adult, and when he threatened to throw my over the balcony laughed in his face and told him to try it. He sat down, I went back to my chair and everyone was looking at me like I'd just dismantled a bomb. Previously I wouldn't have behaved like that at gunpoint! But now things like that present no fear to me. That is not the only incident I've had, but probably the only one I'd care to repeat in a public forum.</p><p></p><p>I am very frustrated at the total lack of effect of the injection and worried about why my levels are being allowed to fall to dangerously low levels without any attempt to find out the reasons why!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EricTCat, post: 214396, member: 36905"] [b]Re: Nebido injections for low testosterone in type two diabe[/b] I am a 47 year old male, a Type II diabetic treated with Exenatide and Lantus injections. My Testosterone levels are very low and as a result have been having Nebido injections for the last 18 months. I am on a ten week injection cycle. For me the results are non-existent and to no effect whatsoever. It has had no noticeable effect on my testosterone levels, which continue to fall, reducing from 8.1 nmol/l to 5.5 nmol/l (sorry if these are the wrong units, I focus more on the falling numbers). As for side effects I am noticeably more "angry" and "moody", and my head hair is falling out. My facial hair growth has reduced noticeably and while I was never hairy on the body I seem to be less hairy than ever. My sleep patterns are shot to hell, and I do get the odd bouts of lower leg cramps, and night sweats. Additionally I have found my bowels have been "upset" since I went onto injections, and there is a lot more laundry to be done. The effect on my libido has been non-existent, and I have not had any of the positive side effects, my wife should be so lucky! Any concerns raised with the GP are routinely ignored, and attempts to see the endocrinologist are sabotaged by my GP. I struggle to get the GP to take regular blood tests to monitor my testosterone levels and had to demand tests to get my PSA levels tested to see if my prostate gland was OK. The GP service is appalling, and there is no realistic chance of involvement or help from my GP. The Hospital services are better, and the specific endocrinologist I see is very skilled and helpful, although I insist on seeing the same consultant for both diabetes and endocrinology to ensure a tied up level of service delivery. I live within the bounds of the Hull and East Yorkshire Area Health Authority and I am not impressed. When I lived in the West Yorkshire area, specifically Bradford, my treatment regime, the courtesy, and the level of interest shown by the medical authorities was much better. If we could afford to move back to West Yorkshire I would be going purely for the improvement in medical care. To present I have been tested for across my HPGA axis, my hypothalamus seems to be ok, my pituitary function seems to be impaired, my gonadal function is ok, and my adrenal glands seem to alright. I am going to have to insist on a scan of my head to check for tumours as all the results from various tests always come up inconclusive or contrary to previous results. One disturbing side effect I, and others, have noticed in me is that my fight or flight reflex has vanished. On several occasions I have stood up to bullies and boors where previously I would have shied away from trouble. I have got up in a crowded coffee bar, walked across the room and told someone who was ranting at an innocent couple to sit down and behave like an adult, and when he threatened to throw my over the balcony laughed in his face and told him to try it. He sat down, I went back to my chair and everyone was looking at me like I'd just dismantled a bomb. Previously I wouldn't have behaved like that at gunpoint! But now things like that present no fear to me. That is not the only incident I've had, but probably the only one I'd care to repeat in a public forum. I am very frustrated at the total lack of effect of the injection and worried about why my levels are being allowed to fall to dangerously low levels without any attempt to find out the reasons why! [/QUOTE]
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