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New and confused !

SunLover_UK

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I have been recently diagnosed with Type 2 with a reading of 8.6, 4 weeks ago. I have read the info on the forum and decided to follow the LCHF diet, I am trying to stick to 60g carbs per day, is this low enough? I have purchased a meter as my doctors would not supply one and said not to bother testing!!. I am more confused now I have started testing!.

This morning before breakfast my reading was 5.8, I had breakfast of a small portion of bran flakes and 2hrs later my reading was 11.2. I have just tested before lunch and my reading was 4.9 ! are these extremes normal?
 
They are not impossible although you do seem to going up and down a bit. The fasting figure was good, the bran flakes look like something to avoid or cut down on and you don't say how long after that you had lunch.
 
Thanks for your reply, I tested at 7.30am 5.8, Tested at 10am 11.2 and tested before lunch at 12.30 4.9
 
Hi and welcome,

Good news that you are being proactive.

Your meter is already helping you by showing that your breakfast needs amending. It caused that huge rise. I'm afraid that cereals, along with potatoes, rice, pasta and bread are the main culprits in raising blood sugars.

Your fasting and pre-lunch readings were great. Keep on testing before and after, keep a food diary, and you will soon learn which foods you need to either eliminate or reduce the portion sizes.

As for 60g a day, this may be fine for you. It may not. We all have different carb thresholds. If you find your levels are not improving, reduce the carbs a bit more. I did it gradually, but wasn't happy with my levels until I got down to 30g a day. Others can manage more.
 
A drop from 11.2 to 4.9 in 2.5 hours is noteworthy but I have never tested bran flakes. These could be spikey so I cannot say the readings are wrong. I think you are going to have a different breakfast in the future.
 
Thanks, looks like no more bran flakes for me, I just don't like eggs so will need to experiment with breakfast. I have been following the 60g carbs daily for 4 weeks and have already lost 5kg so happy with the weight loss. Will keep on trying and testing and hopefully adjust my meals to suit. Going on Holiday next week so going to be very difficult to stick to the 60g will need to up the exercise I think!
 
A suggestion for breakfast - as I struggle to eat breakfast and therefore take it to work and eat it once I get there the best option for myself is plain Greek yogurt, I add a few blueberries or strawberries to add a bit of taste - maybe that could be a better option for you to!
 
I have read the info on the forum and decided to follow the LCHF diet, I am trying to stick to 60g carbs per day, is this low enough?

Yes, 60g is easily low enough to make a significant impact on your BG levels. However I wouldn't think Bran Flakes are a good thing to be eating if you are trying to be Low Carb, especially not for Breakfast, as it is generally not a good idea to consume too many of your Carbs first thing in the morning.
 
I wasn't that fussed on eggs either. Boiled eggs make me want to gag, literally. Experiment a bit maybe. I found I can now eat a boiled egg if I spread philli on it and cover it with black pepper. Omelettes are okay, depending on what you put in them. My favourite used to be poached egg on toast. But the toast is out now so I don't go there
One really nice way with eggs is a courgette and feta frittata. Depends how low carb you want to go, but it works for me. I chop it into chunks and eat it chilled. Works for any meal.

Onion - chopped and sweated, rather than fried, in a bit of olive oil. (Optional)
2 medium courgettes, cut into matchsticks - add to the onion and cook in the frying pan until tender but not floppy (about 5min)
Add a really good handful of torn up fresh mint (I like LOTS)
Feta cheese - about 1/4 -1/2 a packet, depending on taste, cut it into cubes and sprinkle on top of the mixture - do not stir!
Beat up 2 -3 eggs, with a little salt (the feta is salty) and lots of black pepper and pour it over. - now you can stir it. Try to make sure that none of the courgette is stuck to the pan and that the egg is well mixed in or it won't come out of the pan cleanly.
Cook on a medium to low heat until it looks like it's solid around the edges then put it under the grill until the top is done too. You want it set firmly, but not burnt.

- and it tastes nothing like egg!
You can eat it hot, or chill it and grab bits for breakfast on the go, or in a packed lunch...
Good luck on your breakfast quest

(I hate bran flakes)



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Looks like you are new here so I will tag @daisy1 to give you the intro to Low Carb.
Also might be worth checking out
http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
has lots of easily digestible Low Carb info haha
Check out the what have you eaten today thread on this forum too for some more ideas.
Most of all enjoy your new way of eating and the weight loss..
Regards
Mark
 
@SunLover_UK

You will probably have already read this information, mentioned above, but I am repeating it to make sure you have been able to. I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks for taking time to reply, I am new to all this and hopefully the forum will help me find my way and get my number permanently low:-)
 
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