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Hi all, total newbie in all this! First site I googled and thought I best join since the advice seems great.
I was diagnosed yesterday, total shock to the system. I’m T2 and he said something about 18.2 so I’m guessing that’s horrendous!
I also suffer from PCOS, and was put on metformin as of yesterday. 1 a day for a week then 2 the next, 3 from then on after.
I was a bit of a weirdo, my only symptoms was a constant thirst, easy sweating and constant thrush (Which I was blaming on my boyfriend!!)
As its only been about 24 hours, I’ve had a bit of a system shock, my appointment with the diet nurse is not for another 5 weeks and the advice I’ve seen seems conflicting. Do I cut out carbs completely? Can I have any sweet things?
My biggest weakness is my body seems to crave sweet things, Is there anything I can do to stop them? Or munch on things?
I just don’t know what’s good or not to eat!!

Any advice would be fabby.

Thank you

Kim xx
 
Hi Kim and welcome to the forum :)
No, don't cut out carbs completely. Try and find your own level of carbs that suits you by testing before and 2 hours after eating. You can find recipes on the Low Carb Diet section here which will taste sweet but not contain many carbs. Here is the information we give to new members which should help you too. There is a lot of information about carbs on there. Ask all the questions you like and someone will have an answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi Kimberley
Welcome. Am also new and have only been diagnosed on the 7th of this month.
I do recommend spending a couple of hours reading through this forum and there is LOADS of great advice, so much so you wont even bother going to see the dietician. My appointment was 2 days ago and lasted 5 mins due to the knowledge I have gained from here.
The only real time my glucose levels came down to was after I reduced my carb intake to below 100. Obviously cut all the sweet stuff out. I do recommend getting the 'Collins lo carb' book from Amazon, less than £4, gives you a good idea on carb amounts and handy to carry around.
I would also highly recommend buying yourself a glucose meter and testing yourself. It gave me some good feedback to what different foods where doing to my levels.Test before a meal then 2 hours after. Bit expensive at first, but when you get a handle on it you don't need to test that often.
Good luck and do read through the forum
 
Hi Kimberley

Can only reiterate the advice posted above (I was diagnosed tuesday and am currently doing things a bit extreme, so don't necessarily follow my example, but i have a LOT of weight to shift) re that book and the meter, a meter will be your best friend as i am discovering, without it you have no idea really as to how well you are getting things under control.

Good luck with it all and have a right good read around the forum, there is loads of really good info and people around.
 
Hi Kim, Welcome to the forum! Once you cut sweet things out of your diet, you find that after a while you don't crave them. You just have to stick at it ... I try not to eat diabetic chocolate, sweets and things like that otherwise they make me crave more sweet things. If I need to have something sweet, I have berries (raspberries, strawberries, blueberries) with yoghurt, or cream.

Good luck! Jane x
 
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