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<blockquote data-quote="Brunneria" data-source="post: 2091102" data-attributes="member: 41816"><p>[USER=196898]@Oldvatr[/USER]</p><p></p><p>With Vit D, unless it proudly flaunts the D3 all over the label, and charges more, then you will have D2 in the bottle.</p><p>I read that most of the prescriptions for D2 given out by NHS docs are D2, because they are cheaper.</p><p>Likewise multi-vits and mins, which I can no longer be bothered with.</p><p>Very few NHS docs have heard of K2, and muddle it with K1, so will never recommend it to patients because they don't know its usefulness in preventing calcium buildup in the arteries (atherosclerosis).</p><p></p><p>When I want to buy supplements I tend to log on to Amazon and do a search.</p><p>Then I scan down the list til I see a reputable brand (Solgar is a good one, brown glass bottles, good info on the label, etc.)</p><p>Then I zoom in on the label pic and kind of analyse it.</p><p></p><p>round numbers such as 100 or 1500mg usually mean synthetic supplements which are often less useful to the body</p><p>odd numbers such as 109 or 1872 mg usually mean natural sourced supplements which are always more expensive</p><p>the label gives other clues too, such as the form of the vit/min, the dose the brand thinks is useful, and so on.</p><p></p><p>I don't necessarily buy from Amazon, but I use it as a research starting point.</p><p></p><p>A lot of supplements (such as magnesium, B12 and D) come in a variety of different forms. usually with different levels of absorption and usefulness to the body.</p><p>You can google each one, but the basic take home idea that serves me very well is that the more it costs, the better use your body can make of it - and the more good it does.</p><p></p><p>Once I have narrowed in on a form, and the dosage I want, I then shop around for it online, and sometimes buy from Amazon. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I know you don't like Mercola (and I broadly agree with you), but his articles are often very useful in laying out the different forms of each vit or min and how they are produced.</p><p></p><p>I find this website list fascinating for info on the way vits and mins interact, but I lack the time or the enthusiasm to check back all the claims and references, unless I am very interested in one.</p><p><a href="https://www.deannaminich.com/vitamin-and-mineral-interactions-the-complex-relationship-of-essential-nutrients/" target="_blank">https://www.deannaminich.com/vitamin-and-mineral-interactions-the-complex-relationship-of-essential-nutrients/</a></p><p>And I find it problematic that she doesn't clearly distinguish between the different forms of (for example) K and D until you dig deeper, and of course it is a blog, which I know you don't like. But I just use these things as springboards, not gospels. She seems to just provide one reference per statement, which isn't enough in my view, but hey ho. Nothing is perfect. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brunneria, post: 2091102, member: 41816"] [USER=196898]@Oldvatr[/USER] With Vit D, unless it proudly flaunts the D3 all over the label, and charges more, then you will have D2 in the bottle. I read that most of the prescriptions for D2 given out by NHS docs are D2, because they are cheaper. Likewise multi-vits and mins, which I can no longer be bothered with. Very few NHS docs have heard of K2, and muddle it with K1, so will never recommend it to patients because they don't know its usefulness in preventing calcium buildup in the arteries (atherosclerosis). When I want to buy supplements I tend to log on to Amazon and do a search. Then I scan down the list til I see a reputable brand (Solgar is a good one, brown glass bottles, good info on the label, etc.) Then I zoom in on the label pic and kind of analyse it. round numbers such as 100 or 1500mg usually mean synthetic supplements which are often less useful to the body odd numbers such as 109 or 1872 mg usually mean natural sourced supplements which are always more expensive the label gives other clues too, such as the form of the vit/min, the dose the brand thinks is useful, and so on. I don't necessarily buy from Amazon, but I use it as a research starting point. A lot of supplements (such as magnesium, B12 and D) come in a variety of different forms. usually with different levels of absorption and usefulness to the body. You can google each one, but the basic take home idea that serves me very well is that the more it costs, the better use your body can make of it - and the more good it does. Once I have narrowed in on a form, and the dosage I want, I then shop around for it online, and sometimes buy from Amazon. :) I know you don't like Mercola (and I broadly agree with you), but his articles are often very useful in laying out the different forms of each vit or min and how they are produced. I find this website list fascinating for info on the way vits and mins interact, but I lack the time or the enthusiasm to check back all the claims and references, unless I am very interested in one. [URL]https://www.deannaminich.com/vitamin-and-mineral-interactions-the-complex-relationship-of-essential-nutrients/[/URL] And I find it problematic that she doesn't clearly distinguish between the different forms of (for example) K and D until you dig deeper, and of course it is a blog, which I know you don't like. But I just use these things as springboards, not gospels. She seems to just provide one reference per statement, which isn't enough in my view, but hey ho. Nothing is perfect. :D [/QUOTE]
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