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indoken

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hi all

i hope im not repeating old posts but here goes.

been to the nurse today to get some stiches removed and as i have been feeling very thirsty recently asked if she would check my BG levels. i was expecting 8 or 9 but to my horror it was 18.1. this was about 2 hours after having a sausage sandwich.

i now have to have a fasting BG test.

can anyone tell me what i should be looking for (levels wise). as you can imagine i am quite worried about this.

many thanks in advance

ken
 
Hi Ken and welcome to the forum :)

In this information which we give to new members you will find the NICE recommended levels. These are a maximum and most of us prefer to try to get our levels lower. I think the level for a fasting diagnosis is over 7.0. Ask all the questions you like as we are all here to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Relax Ken, all will become clear, you have to wait until the doc has done all the tests and decided how to treat you.

The info in the post above is good, and is worth reading all through.

So take it easy, cut down on all carbs and no sugary foods at all. You will soon get used to it.

There is a lot to learn, but you will soon get there.

You are most likely Type 2, but wait for your diagnosis, I am not a doctor :D

Your levels are best around 8 mmol/ltr 2 hours after eating, you need a meter and test strips to test, your doc. might give you them but if not you have to buy them (Try "Codefree" meter and strips on Ebay, the cheapest at around a Fiver for 50 strips).

Sorry to say this, but the days of sausage sandwiches may be coming to an end, it's the bread you see. Then you might get away with
something like "Bergan Soy and Linseed" bread. Some of us do.

Do not underestimate the benefits of exercise, even 20 mins brisk walk a day will make a good difference.

Lose weight if you are fat, again it makes a big difference, I have lost a lot but still more to go.

Again, don't worry, we were all in the same boat when diagnosed, you will soon be getting levels down to near normal and your new diet and lifestyle is a lot more healthy. I have managed for 10 years now and I hope to last a few more yet :D

H
 
hi

i had a fasting BG test on Friday and i got a call from the docs receptionist letting me know that what i feared was confirmed.

i now have to wait till febuary before i can go to a diabetic clinic. i am now unclear as to weather i should be on tablets, diet only or insulin. is it normal to have to wait this long to find out.

worried

ken
 
wow receptionist giving you the news not a nurse or doctor :shock: :shock: :shock:

even if they dont tell you what the treatment will be till the clinic at least they should give you some reassurance you wont break tll than and some basic dietery advice meanwhile..... however ,,,,,,, dont fret,,,,, read up all the stuff here and even if you just cut back a bit on white bread sarnies, potatoes and too much pasta you will prob reduce the bs a little before you get to the clinic !!!

folk here will hand hold :thumbup: if you need / want it
 
Agree with the other posters, the help and advice you will get here is far better than anything you will get from your diabetes clinic. You are bound to be shocked with this news, we have all been there!! Give yourself a few days to look around here and get your head sorted. You do need to change your diet, as everyone has said I managed to change my diet in July, I have reduced my blood glucose significantly and have lost lots of weight.
 
hi all

spoke to the doc this morning and she was discusted at the way i was informed.

got an appointment with her on monday to get the ball rolling before xmas.

to say i feel more at ease now is an understatment.

ken
 
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