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tracyfiona

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Hi everybody,
My name is Tracy Fiona and my partner Robert is diabetic type 1. He has been drinking heavily for the past 6 months and I don't know what to do anymore. I am thinking of giving up my job and move to his hometown where he could get help as he would not accept it where we live at the moment. Does anyone out there have experience with a situation like this? Would be glad for any kind of advice.
 
hya tracy and welcome,
unfortunately i cant really help but my ex was a big drinker and i know that if the person does not want to stop drinking then they wont, has he seen a dr about this? is there an underlying reason that he drinks? sorry i havent been much help :)
 
Hi Tracy
Welcome to the forum! Thing is until he can say that he has a problem then he can not be helped! Trust me! Had many problems with mum who is type 1.
She finally said i have mental isssues and i need help!
Until robert can say I am a alcholic and i need help! No one can force this issue i know it is very sad and upsetting for you having to watch him be this way!
Is there something that has caused this, Emotional stress, berevement, past come back?
Sometimes people drink to block out pain! I think you are a very brave person! We are here to listen! Even if you just need someone to cry to or talk about your troubles with! we are here for you!
I wish that there was something more i could say!
Sandy
 
Hi totsy,
Yes he does want to stop but won't do it where we live hence the wish for moving to his hometown. He is slowly drinking less and less as he is worried about whats going on in his body. There of course is also the other aspect what it does to our relationshop. How does one deal with it?
 
if he does want to stop, he needs to see his gp as stopping abruptly can be harmfull also, i know how hard it is ,i had 10 yrs with an alchoholic and it was horrible, i cant tell you what to do as that is private but we are here if u need to chat :D
 
There is always a reason not to do something for someone who abuses alcohol. Drinkers are very good at making excuses, wallpapering over the cracks and making it seem like it is your fault.

You need to think very carefully about the consequences for you before you do something like move away. The longer you excuse his unreasonable behaviour (and alcohol abuse is unreasonable behaviour) and make all kinds of little accomodations for his drinking, he will not take responsibility for it, even if you stop doing this he still might not change. What if you move and he still doesn't seek help? And even if he does seek help, it takes time - how long did it take to get to where he got with his drinking? It isn't an overnight fix to put things right.

There must be a community drug and alcohol unit in your local area - call their helpline and get some support as a partner. It will help you stay in touch with reality.

As far as his T1 goes, I think addressing that is probably a waste of time until the drinking is sorted out. If he is a problem drinker, the most important thing is his next drink not his diabetes.

Welcome to the boards, I hope you find something of help here, but I suspect you may get the kind of support you actually need from something aimed at the drink problem.
 
Hi Sandy,
Yes, fortenately he can say I am am an alcoholic and recognises his problem. At the moment he is weening himself off the drink, slowly but surely. What exactly the reason behind his drinking is, we are both not sure. Yes, he lost his father last year to whom he was very close, had to move house, then we met, left hometown and moved in with me. So a lot was happening in a very short period of time which would drive anybody crazy. So drinking is the easy way out.........one of my concern also it do you or anybody know what is happening in his body since he is not taking insulin regurarly anymore? Before he started to drink he always made sure that he took his medication and insulin.
Tracy
 
basically if a type 1 doesnt take any insulin they will die... sorry but u asked
does he check his bloods at all?
does he take any insulin?
will help u as much as we can
 
Hi Tracy,
okay lets start at first post, He can say he needs help this is good, he knows he has a problem!
Then the second bit,losing his dad whom he was close to would of been a shattering experence! i am not that close to my mum, but i would be shattered if she died! then on top of that he moved okay!
I think that he has done well to cut down the drinking, This is a good start! And a postive one, Not taking insulin is not a good thing as his blood sugars will be spiking!
Do you have a blood testing monitor? If so will he let you use it on him?
If so then take his blood sugar!
I think he needs counselling for the problem that he has! he is greaving badly and he needs to be able to cry after what he has been through!
I hate to say this tracy, But the liver causes liver dumps in diabeties where the liver dumps glucose in the system! Problem is a drinker can pickle their liver with alchol!
He needs to check his blood sugar and he needs help with getting his blood sugars under control as right now he is putting his body under pressure!
He is greaving but he does not know how to show it! Girls can cry, But men are always taught boys and men don't cry! Thing is it takes a big man to be able to cry!
Okay i am thinking that this drinking is putting strain between the both of you! You can Pm anytime if you need a bit of support or just someone to chat to! I am usually on and off line most everyday! I would get straight back to you as soon as i see a message!
You also need to look after yourself, you need to take care of you! Is he eatting at all?
Sandy
 
I have been thinking about this on and off all evening. It is something I have have had to deal with fairly recently on a personal level with a family member and I frequently deal with problem drinkers at work. I have also worked, albeit briefly, in the drug and alcohol field. My thoughts and opinions here are based mostly on my experience of a close family member's problem drinking with a bit of professional knowledge thrown in.

Even if he says he knows he has a problem and is very very sorry he can still tell lies and be deceitful. There is a difference between talking the talk and walking the walk, and actions speak so much louder than words. Drinkers will hide the full extent of their drinking.

There are differnt patterns of problems drinking and defining what is an alcohol problem is very difficult. My working definition is that if drinking casues problems in everyday life, it is a problem. This is unrelated to the physiological effects of alcohol on someone's body and psyche or even how much someone actually drinks.

Some people will gradually drink more and more, others will drink more heavily in response to a crisis of some sort, some people binge drink and some are permanently pickled, some drink alone, some drink with friends. Some need to drink a lot, some hardly anything, alcohol problems are not necessarily about how much someone actually drinks. To be honest, I don't really know if it is even worth analysing it, what you need to know is - is X drinking and is it causing a problem?

Trying to help him by testing his blood and giving him insulin will wear you out - you cannot hold someone to the correct regime by the strength of your determination. This was the situation I found myself in, although with a different medical problem. I coped by walking away from it when it was badly affecting my health and everyday life (including my ability to do my job) and my family, and the other person's behaviour became more and more difficult to cope with, although I made sure the medical people supporting him knew that I was about to walk away before I did it.

What I found out by walking away was how much power and leverage I had in the situation. It forced him to seek help. Now, while he is much better and is finally dealing with his problems, the real test will be when he has another crisis, will he fall back to his drinking or will he seek the help he needs. For me, the drinking has destroyed the trust and that will possibly never return.

If you have concerns about his welfare, talk to his GP, but be realistic about what you take on - you can't stop drinking for him. If he has an underlying mental health problem he must be sober when assessed by the mental heath people and remember, alcohol is a depressant, so if he is feeling down already alcohol will make him feel more depressed.

People can get on top of drinking problems, but it is really hard work. However much you care and however much you want to, you can't do it for them and trying to do it will end up damaging your life too. There isn't an easy way to do it, but support is important, but it doesn't have to come from you. In the end, for me, I tried to remain fair and consitent in a way that didn't involve me trying to rescue him. I suspect you may have to do something similar if you really want to help him.
 
Hi Sandy, Totsy and Spiral,

It is great relieve for me to know that there are people out there who have experience with this kind of situation, makes me feel a lot better and not so alone. Thank you also for your straightforward words, they are much appreciated and needed. I can take his blood sugars and give him insulin, no problem there although when i remind him he prefers to do it himself, men....:-) As for the grieving part I wish he would just cry out his sorrows, it would be a good start on the road to healing......and yes, the alcohol is putting a big strain on our relationship. Especially since we met when he was not drinking and I got to know the real person.

Totsy, thank you for your straigtforward words, nothing but the truth....

Sandy, how this this Pm work on here? I am new to this.

Spiral, I am taking your words in and I am and will think about them very carefully. I really want to help him to get of the drink as he is slowly killing himself with it and it hurts big time to see it.

Tracy
 
hya tracy,
we will help u as much as possible :D as i said i know what a relationship with an alchoholic is like, it took me 10 yrs to leave him and it was by no means an easy choice (((((hugs)))))
 
tracyfiona said:
Spiral, I am taking your words in and I am and will think about them very carefully. I really want to help him to get of the drink as he is slowly killing himself with it and it hurts big time to see it.

Tracy

This is why you need to talk to your local community drug and alcohol team. This is a service provided through the NHS and local authority. You can get contact details fom the phone book or by rining you local mental health sevice or your doctors surgery. At the very least they can advise you about how to develop a contingency plan for emergencies and will help you to stay in touch with reality (it gets a bit surreal around problem drinkers).

I do understand the position you are in, and I did something very similar for a while. The person I was close to had always enjoyed a drink and over the years, from his mid-20, this got heavier and heavier. I think I was trying to hold his life together for him for about 2 years before I finally realised I just could not do it anymore - at least not if I wanted to keep my friends and my sanity. It would be okay when I was there, holding all the threads of his life together, but after I'd leave he would start drinking and everythign would unravel.

Spending so much time with him cost me a lot of my social life and quality time with my son. It affected my sleeping patterns, my eating patterns, the amount of exercise I took and my bank balance as I also bailed him out financially. This is where I made some very poor lifestyle choices and there were knock-on effects for my health. I suspect I'd have become diabetic anyway given my risk factors, but I think it happened a few years earlier than it would have done otherwise.

My friends were aware of the problems and expressed a lot of concern. We live a long way away from our familes of origin and if I wasn't there, there was no one else there for him. Before I reached my limit my friends were avoiding any contact with me where my family member might be and I found I could not talk to anyone about it, because their advice would always be the same and I didn't want to hear it. However, I had to do do it for a while to realise that I couldn't do it.

Thinking of you. Take care of yourself.
 
Hi Tracy
I Will send you a Pm then you will be able to reply back to that! Sorry was not on last night! Had rotten toothache!
It must be very hard for you! It is good that he will do it himself! That is half the step when he will test himself and inject!
Sandy
 
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