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New type 2 - how long til I see a gl level improvement?

BIRCO

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Hi all,

I've been diagnosed a week now. The first couple of days were kind of just taking things in, then a day or two of helplessness but now I feel I'm at least starting to get to grips with things. I've got a nice iphone thing so I can test my gl levels. Am now eating the right foods, low carbs, no sugar etc etc and am exercising every day for about half an hour. I take a metformin with dinner and a choleserol lowering pill before bed. My average this week is 11 and I've been testing probably three times a day. I have numbness in my feet and I know when I've eaten something bad (banana, cereal etc) because I get tinnitus.

My clinic appt is still a month away and I just wondered how long it would be generally before I start to see some improvement in my gl levels and hence I can perhaps start to feel better?

Much thanks for any info :-)

Ian
 
BIRCO said:
My average this week is 11 and I've been testing probably three times a day.

Morning Ian,

When are you testing? Are you managing to get a test before and then 2 hrs after meals? You'll need to be quite disciplined with the tests if your average is going to mean anything. A lot of us on here test as soon as we wake up (because it's quite easy to remember and good as a comparison) and then test before and after at least one meal and ideally all three if you can afford (or get) the strips.

It takes time and depends on how dramatically you cut the carbs (if that's the route you're going). The numbness in your feet is down to your levels and once you have some lower numbers it should disappear - but it wont be overnight. More likely that you'll suddenly realise you don't have it any more.

I suggest you build up two logs, one of what you're eating each day (I used a cheap diary for this) and a spreadsheet for your readings. You don't have to do this for ever but it will be hugely useful for your clinic appointment.

Best of luck
S
 
Hi Ian and welcome to the forum :)
Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Thanks ever so for the info both :) This forum is going to make a big difference!

Sounds like I'm doing the testing right with a test before and a couple of hours after a meal. I'm worried about my feet. Last night it was more like a burning than a numbness and I'm concerned it may hinder my exercise. I do hope that's not the case.

Much thanks

I
 
Welcome Ian, we tend to refer to Blood Glucose readings as BGs, but we know what you mean.

Do not be in to much of a hurry to get your levels right down, it can be detrimental and might worsen some of the complications diabetics get. Better done over a couple of months slowly reducing each day.

You will get your BGs down, it takes time and maybe a bit of help from medication. That's where your food and readings chart will be useful to the doc. or nurse, they will be able to see any trend (or not) and select the right dose and medication for you.

You are doing the right things and are being proactive in the management of you diabetes, that is most important, because if you don't do it no one else will.

You will learn more about the various medications and your diabetes as time goes on, this will enable you to make choices about how you want your diabetes to be handled.

Ask for a print out of any test results, get to know what they mean, keep your records in a folder or something so you can refer to them as required.

My doctor and DSN (Diabetic Specialist Nurse) are both very good, but I still "keep my eye on the ball" so to speak, as a result I have been able to discuss my treatment from a base founded on knowledge.

It all works for me, ten years on and still controlled well, at this rate I will live to be an old man, Oh! I just remembered I am an old man :D

H
 
Hi Birco

The burning/numbness in your feet may be down to diabetic neuropathy, one of the complications of diabetes arising from nerve damage. There is a link in Daisy's advice for the newly diagnosed about the complications of diabetes and it might be worth you have a look at that. Care of your feet is one of the areas that your GP/nurse should deal with as part of your diabetic care and regular checkups. Mention your feet problem when you go to your clinic appointment.

Take care

Doug
 
Hi again,

Well 12 days in and I'm showing signs of improvement. My BG levels are now under 9 two hours after food and I've started to feel better. Low carbs is definitely the way to go! My feet are feeling a little better now as well so I guess as swimmer said, it was indeed the bg levels being high.

Thanks ever so for this forum and the peeps on it for helping me through the initial stages.
 
BIRCO said:
Hi again,

Well 12 days in and I'm showing signs of improvement. My BG levels are now under 9 two hours after food and I've started to feel better. Low carbs is definitely the way to go! My feet are feeling a little better now as well so I guess as swimmer said, it was indeed the bg levels being high.

Thanks ever so for this forum and the peeps on it for helping me through the initial stages.

Great news! It can take a while to get them back to normal. It took me around 6 to 8 weeks of low carbing at around 50 to 60g / day until every reading was consistently under 8 so as long as you keep seeing the gradual improvement you're doing really well.
 
Well done Birco, keep it up. I could barely stand up first thing in the morning at the beginning of this year but have no problems with my feet now.
 
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