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Lucy_Betts_

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Location
Coventry
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
Dislikes
Not being allowed to have chocolate
Second hbc1a test came in at 80, first was 79 so at least I'm consistent. Meet my diabetic nurse next Friday. Any advice in the meantime would be welcomed
 
Hi Lucy and welcome to the forum. I will tag @daisy1 who will post lots of great advice for newbies.

In the meantime could you tell us if you are on any meds yet? This will help with advice given.
 
No, nothing at all. Just seeing diabetic nurse on Friday 13th (lol). What can I expect?
 
You may be offered Metformin and possibly a statin. You may be given a foot exam and some dietar advice. An eye screening test should be arranged for you. Good luck.
 
I'm surprised that nobody has commented yet, that the advice you will probably get has to be thought about carefully. When I was diagnosed in December last year I was advised to change my diet. The problem is, I was advised to eat plenty of carbohydrates. Many people have found that you won't get advised to significantly reduce your carbohydrate intake but for many of us it makes a big difference. For me it has brought my levels into non diabetic levels for example. So, take any advice you get from the NHS with a pinch of salt, and do your own research. There is a massive amount of anecdotal evidence here that you can read, and have a look at the success stories section.
 
What about monitoring bg levels?
Great question. Yes, get yourself a blood glucose monitor and strips. The nurse may tell you that there's no need to test but testing at home is the only way to see which foods spike your levels. Test just before the first bite of food then two hours after your first bite. There should be no more than 2mmol difference and ideally no more than 1.5 difference between the two readings.
 
Hi @Lucy_Betts_ .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here .. since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board now is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @Guzzler has already tagged @ daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Unless you are given one by your Doc or Nurse (unlikely), it is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day, which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above I test fasting blood sugar, then before meals and two hours afterwards .. this enables me to check which (if any) foods give me "spikes" and to monitor trends over time. More importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 
@Lucy_Betts_

Hello Lucy and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hi Lucy, I was given a meter when I was admitted to hospital at Easter for Pancreatitis. So ask for one when you see the diabetic nurse, also you are entitled to free Prescriptions as a diabetic so I am getting my lancets and strips free.
 
Hi Lucy, I was given a meter when I was admitted to hospital at Easter for Pancreatitis. So ask for one when you see the diabetic nurse, also you are entitled to free Prescriptions as a diabetic so I am getting my lancets and strips free.
Not all T2s are offered a meter and those not on bg lowering drugs or insulin are told not to test. They will say that testing just worries people but the real reason imo is that with the hundreds of thousands of people diagnosed with Pre Diabetes and T2 Diabetes the cost of prescribing meters and strips would bankrupt the NHS.
 
Not all T2s are offered a meter and those not on bg lowering drugs or insulin are told not to test. They will say that testing just worries people but the real reason imo is that with the hundreds of thousands of people diagnosed with Pre Diabetes and T2 Diabetes the cost of prescribing meters and strips would bankrupt the NHS.

I agree .. in part .. but the reason for the metering is to keep you out of hospital, one night in would cost more than a meter and strips surely
 
Providing the meters to those that want them and are willing to learn how to use them properly and teaching people what the results mean would, in my opinion, save the NHS money.
 
I agree .. in part .. but the reason for the metering is to keep you out of hospital, one night in would cost more than a meter and strips surely

Yes. What part do you disagree with?

Taking readings regularly means we can have a measure of control, we can see in black and white and in real time how foods affect us. I would hazard a guess that if everyone diagnosed with T2 was given a meter (especially one of those swanky ones that you can put your readings onto a phone or computer) then people would see immediately that the Eatwell plate was a bit naff and, as you say, avoid hospital visits, increased meds esp insulin. Meters would pay for themselves but this would first mean that we would all be required to sing from the same hymn sheet.
 
I've found testing my own blood has helped enormously I stay away from the foods that spike my bloods some surprising ones too which without testing I wouldn't have thought they would spike it, I've gotten my blood down from 67 to 47 and lost weight
 
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