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izzzi

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Hi I am new to diabetes type2, Doctor has advised me to look into Diabetes.co.uk which I found quite helpful. Being nearly 65 Its not to easy to fully understand how to use lap tops etc; yet I am getting there.
I have gone onto Dr Neal Barnard reverse diet.(simply vegan and no oil,fat,sugar).
I live in Northants and have a very supportive family. This all has happened in the last six weeks. Luckily I don't smoke and stopped taking alcohol for about a year.
I would be grateful for advice regarding food and how to keep on top of things especially treats.

Many thanks Roy.
 
Hi Roy and welcome

Daisy will be along soon to offer her advice to new members of the forum.
 
Hi Roy and welcome to the forum
I think some members will be along soon to let you know what their treats are - we all have our favourites. Here is some information that we give to new members and this should be helpful to you. Ask any questions you like as we are all here to help.

 
Hi. Daisy has given you various links for more information. Note that it isn't just sugar you ened to control but any carbohydrate. Go for low-GI carbs where you can. Fats aren't a problem for diabetes as long as you don't binge on too many saturated fats and block your arteries. Alcohol also isn't a problem in sensible quantities. So, despite the advice you may receive from some HCPs, watch the carbs and get a meter to test your blood sugar and find out what affects you.
 
Hello Roy and welcome to the forum.

I was diagnosed in December last year and using the advice I found on this site I got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so and I have also normalised my cholesterol levels and blood pressure as well. I have now lost over 3 stone in weight too. My doctor is very pleased how I am getting on and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since it's obviously working really well. Not a cure as I still have to be very careful what I eat but I feel loads better than I did.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next and really importantly try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left swap try brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar for Type 2 diabetics. In the UK the diet guidelines are now over 30 years old and are only gradually being updated. As the UK is lagging behind you may find what I and other forum members recommend will be different to what your are told is a good diet for you follow.

Did your doctor mention giving you a meter and strips to measure your own blood sugars?. Some do and some don't. It's a bit of a post code lottery and we find some progressive surgeries are pro testing and others anti. I'll warn you the anti ones can sometimes be very vocally anti!

The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.

Regards

Steve

PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in

Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes that are excellent for reducing blood sugar levels and losing weight.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 
This is the good advice I have been looking for, What a great start.
Thanks Roy.
 
Hi
Just attended 1st Half of DESMOND coarse.
I was very surprised that DIABETES.CO.UK was not mentioned or recommended at any time. eg; recipes,advice,help, etc;
The NHS booklet is helpful. I felt I was back in the good old days when Knowledge was not up to date concerning poisons like aspartame etc;
When I attend the final 1/2 of the coarse next week I will certainly shout out DIABETES.CO.UK

Am I just being negative or constructive.

Roy. :?:
 
Welcome Roy,

There is a wealth of knowledge within the forum, fill your boots on reading the varied threads, you'll be a wiser man for it.

:thumbup:
 
Think you're being brave shouting dabetes.co.uk forum, they don't tow the party line.
 
Your right, best not shout, but I will quietly make sure that people on the coarse are aware of diabetes.co.uk
 
Welcome to the club Roy, just a thought, I am 69 so even with the best control of my blood sugars I might manage an extra few months of life. The whole point about getting things under control is that however long you have, at least you can get there with two legs and feet!

All good advice above, it's a lot to take on board at first so don't get into things to deep to start with.

Cut your carbs, do some excercise ( it really does make a difference), and get a meter and some strips.

Have a drink now and then, it can actually help reduce blood sugars.

H
 
roydove said:
Your right, best not shout, but I will quietly make sure that people on the coarse are aware of diabetes.co.uk

As long as you make sure that you tell them it is diabetes.CO.uk that you are using and have found helpful, this is a different site from the the charity DiabetesUK!!

Thanks for putting the word around Roy and glad you feel that the forum is helpful.
 
Going to the 2nd and final part of DESMOND coarse on Monday, I have taken on board all the advice that's been sent by you lovely people.
I shall mention this site DIABETES .CO,UK With the red background.
My son reckons that I come across a goody goody. (I wish) on this site.
I think everyone on this forum are great because it seems to make sense what is said for all requirements.
My son also said that the advice on this site is better than the Doctors recommendation.
However I forgot to tell my son that the doctor told me to look into this site for everything that helps my diabetes type2.

Roy :think:
 
Just attended the final part of the DESMOND , sadly not every one turned up which was not nice due to the effort DESMOND makes on our behalf.
I did mention DIABETES.CO.UK and how I was pleased with the help and the good forum it has.

I also said that they the NHS give me the impression that we diabetes type 2 are treated more like "diabetes type second hand" and we are stupid when it comes to choosing foods and lack of daily control using what they call gadgets (blood glucose checks).

I thought fat is fat so do take, also that sugar and sweeteners are dangerous so don't take.
As we need some necessary so called fat it shall be included in fresh fruit & veg and seeds nuts etc;

One example they gave us was showing about 20 different types of butter type spreads, then asked us to choose which were OK for us to use. we thought about 3 were safe, actually 8 were safe according to them.
however I think any tub of spread is heavy junk food.

Have I become a healthier person from seeing to many bad foods or am I loosing the plot. Its still good news so far.

Roy :lol:
 
Thank you for all of this useful information. I hope things get easier - my hubby was just diagnosed and I want him to be healthy but there is so much to learn! Thanks for this info. :thumbup:
 
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