Newcastle Diet & other very low calorie diets

[Mini40]

Hi

I am curious as to why this study isn't more largely implemented? From my own experience, in the last month, a VLCD has brought my newly diagnosed diabetes well within normal ranges. Fasting reading 5.0-5.5, down from 7.0. Post meal reading 6.0-6.5, down from 12!
I have lost 16 lbs and I feel great, all the symptoms of diabetes has disappeared. My blood pressure has gone from high (140ish/90ish) to very low (90ish/60ish).
My doctor this morning, asked to stay on the medication for the blood pressure, but asked me not to drive. He will review it next week.

I am not a medical professional, but I think all pre-diabetics and new diagnosed borderline diabetics, should be put on a very low calorie diet and re-evaluated after 8-12 weeks. What are your thoughts?

M

 

[MCMLXXIII]

Re: Newcastle Diet & other very low calorie diets

I think congratulations are in order.;-)
But it's very difficult for some people to give up what they love eating.
Sure they can make adjustments, and to them that's putting in the effort of dealing with diabetes but for some i fear Newcastle is too far:smile:
I have a question:
Were told to avoid white potatoes, so for lovers of good old chips is there a diabetic low carb friendly alternative?

 

[Brunneria]

I am not a medical professional, but I think all pre-diabetics and new diagnosed borderline diabetics, should be put on a very low calorie diet and re-evaluated after 8-12 weeks. What are your thoughts?

M

My thoughts are that every low calorie severely restricted eating system I have tried over 25 years has (within a year) led me to regain all the weight I lost + some more.

I understand that this is a predictable pattern for some 90% of dieters.

So, until someone can prove to me that the Newcastle Diet has found a way to overcome this 90% likelihood for, say, 2 years after ending the diet, I will steer well clear of it!

But don't let me put you off - if it is working for you, then I am delighted, and I hope you continue to reap the rewards of your efforts.

 

[PhilT]

I am not a medical professional, but I think all pre-diabetics and new diagnosed borderline diabetics, should be put on a very low calorie diet and re-evaluated after 8-12 weeks. What are your thoughts? M

VLC diets are only for the obese or maybe overweight, so that's one restriction I would suggest.

The work at Newcastle was excellent, showing how the VLC diet could achieve the T2 diabetes reversal often seen in bariatric surgery.

You would need to be in some sort of police state to get serial over-eaters to go on a VLC regime for 6-8 weeks, or to get people to give up their favourite foods. Too many people's lives revolve around eating these days, so I don't see your proposition as workable, although I agree entirely with your sentiment.

 

[Jo123]

Hi



I am not a medical professional, but I think all pre-diabetics and new diagnosed borderline diabetics, should be put on a very low calorie diet and re-evaluated after 8-12 weeks. What are your thoughts?

M[/quote

Absolutely not because not all diabetics or pre diabetics are fat, and I am afraid I do find it rather insulting, bad enough the nhs pushing this view!

 

[MCMLXXIII]

Re: Newcastle Diet & other very low calorie diets

Hi



I am not a medical professional, but I think all pre-diabetics and new diagnosed borderline diabetics, should be put on a very low calorie diet and re-evaluated after 8-12 weeks. What are your thoughts?

M[/quote

Absolutely not because not all diabetics or pre diabetics are fat, and I am afraid I do find it rather insulting, bad enough the nhs pushing this view!

I don't think the op meant "fat".
Were they not suggesting a lower calorie diet to facilitate sugar control? Like the Newcastle diet, whatever "morph" you're blessed with.


@myroomsadisco

 

[Jo123]

But the problem is that if you were not overweight to start with and followed this diet then you would lose too much weight. Believe me I am a low carber and I have problems not losing too much weight, and if your bmi was ok then I think it would be unsustainable to do the newcastle diet. Believe me I wish i could do it I would love to reactivate my pancreas but I can't afford to lose any more weight, 5'8" and 60 kgs, before I was diagnosed as prediabetic I was slim but had to work at it, now I low carb I find it hard to maintain my weight.

 

[MCMLXXIII]

Re: Newcastle Diet & other very low calorie diets

But the problem is that if you were not overweight to start with and followed this diet then you would lose too much weight. Believe me I am a low carber and I have problems not losing too much weight, and if your bmi was ok then I think it would be unsustainable to do the newcastle diet. Believe me I wish i could do it I would love to reactivate my pancreas but I can't afford to lose any more weight, 5'8" and 60 kgs, before I was diagnosed as prediabetic I was slim but had to work at it, now I low carb I find it hard to maintain my weight.

Perhaps you should look at a paleo diet maybe?

@myroomsadisco