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<blockquote data-quote="Yorksman" data-source="post: 372486" data-attributes="member: 55568"><p>Well it's been nearly 40 years since I was 14st 10lbs and that was when I was extremely active. I did get down to 15st 20 years ago, but then too I was in the gym 5 times per week.</p><p></p><p>I have slowed down somewhat since then <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I've lost 23 Kg now and get readings in the 4s a couple of times per day. I am doing 3 x 10 mins either rowing or cycling, 1 session after every meal. I don't go hell for leather as I am sure something like an artery would break if I did. I already hurt my knee when I went too fast. So slowly does it and the exercises get easier and the weight slowly comes off and the readings slowly come down.</p><p></p><p>Best news is I still want to lose another 27 Kg so that would be interesting to see what the effect will be on my BG levels. I won't achieve 27 Kg of course. That would take me back to my schooldays but 20 Kg would be nice. Anyway, if you don't have anything to aim at, you stop making the effort. </p><p></p><p>If you are getting lots of 4s, you must be really very pleased. It must be a massive confidence booster for the final push. At some point you will have to think carefully about what you intend to eat after your fasting diet, to avoid slipping back into bad old habits. As far as I understand it, the idea of the diet is to normalise the liver and pancreatic triglycerides and restore the beta cell function. This should allow the remaining beta cells to produce insulin normally but, what it won't do is replace those that were initially lost. So, although weaker than what it used to be, the continued decline is halted. Just don't overstress it. Sadly we never get to know how many of our beta cells we have lost because the only way to find out is by slicing open the pancreas and although they have done it on people who have died, I am not too sure how helpful that is for us <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> One reads things like diabetics have lost 50% of their beta cells by the time of diagnosis, but that is a very rough and ready guesstimate. If you spot it early and try to rectify it early, it would seem reasonable to suppose that it is a lot less. i think the figure must be heavily weighted downwards because of the sheer number of people waking around with diabetes, unaware of it, eating iced doughnuts and sweet and sour chicken.</p><p></p><p>Fingers crossed, things will be working normally when you have finished and limited indulgencies won't adversely affect you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yorksman, post: 372486, member: 55568"] Well it's been nearly 40 years since I was 14st 10lbs and that was when I was extremely active. I did get down to 15st 20 years ago, but then too I was in the gym 5 times per week. I have slowed down somewhat since then :-) I've lost 23 Kg now and get readings in the 4s a couple of times per day. I am doing 3 x 10 mins either rowing or cycling, 1 session after every meal. I don't go hell for leather as I am sure something like an artery would break if I did. I already hurt my knee when I went too fast. So slowly does it and the exercises get easier and the weight slowly comes off and the readings slowly come down. Best news is I still want to lose another 27 Kg so that would be interesting to see what the effect will be on my BG levels. I won't achieve 27 Kg of course. That would take me back to my schooldays but 20 Kg would be nice. Anyway, if you don't have anything to aim at, you stop making the effort. If you are getting lots of 4s, you must be really very pleased. It must be a massive confidence booster for the final push. At some point you will have to think carefully about what you intend to eat after your fasting diet, to avoid slipping back into bad old habits. As far as I understand it, the idea of the diet is to normalise the liver and pancreatic triglycerides and restore the beta cell function. This should allow the remaining beta cells to produce insulin normally but, what it won't do is replace those that were initially lost. So, although weaker than what it used to be, the continued decline is halted. Just don't overstress it. Sadly we never get to know how many of our beta cells we have lost because the only way to find out is by slicing open the pancreas and although they have done it on people who have died, I am not too sure how helpful that is for us :-) One reads things like diabetics have lost 50% of their beta cells by the time of diagnosis, but that is a very rough and ready guesstimate. If you spot it early and try to rectify it early, it would seem reasonable to suppose that it is a lot less. i think the figure must be heavily weighted downwards because of the sheer number of people waking around with diabetes, unaware of it, eating iced doughnuts and sweet and sour chicken. Fingers crossed, things will be working normally when you have finished and limited indulgencies won't adversely affect you. [/QUOTE]
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