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Newly diagnosed type 2

Jerri

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
After fasting 13 hours my blood sugar was 6.9. It's never below 6.5. Doctor said I should only check my levels twice a week as the strips are too expensive. Not got my first appointment for diabetic clinic till the 30 th July. I was meant to start a tablet today but they are going to try a dietician first. If after 13 hrs of nothing it is high how will a diet help. Any advice welcome


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Hello and welcome.

A fasting reading of 6.9 isn't drastic, although higher than desirable. A fasting test has too many variables to be taken on its own - over night when fasting for so long, your liver will kick in and produce its own glucose to help you wake up and start the day. Everyone is different in this respect, but we all have a liver dump when our bodies are starved of food.

What was your HbA1c result? That is more indicative of where you are at the moment.

Of course your doctor will tell you to only test twice a week if he is paying for your strips. You must ignore him and buy your own. Testing twice a week is meaningless. You need to test out your food to see which meals/foods are causing you to have raised sugar levels. Test immediately before eating and 1 hour and 2 hours after starting to eat. That way you will learn which foods your body can cope with and which you need to avoid. This is essential if you are to control this disease.

Good luck, and keep us posted of your progress, and ask as many questions as you like.
 
My hba1c is 143


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Jerri, welcome.

hba1c of 143 mg/dl equates to 49 which is just about on the level that you are labelled type 2.

As Bluetit says above you need to test, test and test again. At that level of BG, a healthy attitude towards a LCHF diet could see you keep this at bay and even reverse it for a number of years.

jim
 
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My fasting BS is 53 thats 7.0 and they dont want to see me again until October,I have now started a low carb diet and had a lot of advice from this site.dont get anxious it dosent help.
Patricia
 
Thanks everyone. I don't eat very much as I have no appetite due to having stage 4 renal failure. I kind of panic at cutting out carbs when it is probably all I eat. I never have sweets or crisps of sugary drinks but when I do eat it is carbs.


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Thanks everyone. I don't eat very much as I have no appetite due to having stage 4 renal failure. I kind of panic at cutting out carbs when it is probably all I eat. I never have sweets or crisps of sugary drinks but when I do eat it is carbs.


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Jerri sorry to hear you also have kidney problems. I think you probably need specialist advice from your GP/dietician as to what is the way forward diet wise. You cannot rely on what we tell you alone.

jim
 
GP referred me to the dietician today. I also have an appointment for the diabetic clinic. I will see what they say. I don't know how long the referral will take though. They wanted to start me on glycoside but he wants me to see the dietician first


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As Jim said, your HbA1c of 143 mg/dl (or 49mmol/mol in UK terms) is only just in the diabetic range. The cut off point is 48mmol.mol or 140mg/dl. So not at all drastic and will be easy to control with the right diet and some added exercise if you can manage that. A 30 minute walk each day is enough. In the UK it is unusual for newly diagnosed diabetics to be put on any medication at that level. We are advised to try to control it by diet and exercise at least at the beginning. I hope you are able to sort out a suitable diet for both kidney problems and diabetes and avoid medication. Let us know how you go on, and come back with any questions you may have.
 
I can't exercise as I have low potassium which causes muscle problems. I'm not overweight by much. I will see what they say about diet but exercise is a no go


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Hi Jerri and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions as there is always someone who can help.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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