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Newly diagnosed with type 2 and trying for baby

ralu

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi all!
I just been diagnosed with type 2 . Far as I remember my mmol was 54 . At the moment they said I need to loose weight and go on the low carb diet. I'm really stressed . I cannot eat anything and keep on crying. I fear that I cannot control this disease no matter what I'm doing as my mum died of complications.
I was trying for a baby and this is how I found out I have it. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get pregnant at my age (36 years old) and have a healthy pregnancy and baby? I read all sorts of horror stories and not much positives about it. I feel I cannot wait to try for a baby as I'm getting so much older and all sorts of risks could appear.
Thank you so much.
Raluca
 
Hi Raluca
As far as I know it is absolutely possible to get pregnant and have a healthy baby, although you will have to be closely monitored and some meds will have to change. I think I remember my doctor telling me that I would have to be on insulin in the remote possibility I got pregnant (I have PCOS and other issues that stop it being so easy)
At 36 you are NOT old, despite what the doctors will tell you.
You will be able to control your diabetes with low carb, don't be scared of food; ignore the food you can't eat and celebrate the cream, cheese and steak! You will lose weight quickly and that will also help with getting pregnant and being healthy.

Good luck!!
 
Hi @ralu .. and welcome
Well my sister had her first baby when she was 39 ..
Otherwise, you have made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly ..

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

For testing, try the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter or: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free. The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I will be able to manage them
Hope this helps
 
You should probably have a chat to your doctor about trying to conceive. It's recommended that ladies with diabetes trying to get pregnant should aim to have a hba1c under 48. They should also be on high dose folic acid.

Of course it's possible to have a healthy, successful pregnancy with diabetes. It does take work to keep blood sugar in tight control (fasting 5.3 and 7.8 1 hour after eating, 6.4 2 hours after eating) because of the hormones of pregnancy, and the nutritional demands to eat a balanced diet, it may be difficult to maintain the tight control required by diet alone and, if so, you'll get support with appropriate medication.
 
Thank you both so much for your replies. It means a lot to me . I will look into the Low carb diet . I already started eating without carbs as much as I can. It is pretty difficult. I guess I'm still in the state of shock as it only a week since I was diagnosed.
Thank you so much for your support
 
Hi Raluca
As far as I know it is absolutely possible to get pregnant and have a healthy baby, although you will have to be closely monitored and some meds will have to change. I think I remember my doctor telling me that I would have to be on insulin in the remote possibility I got pregnant (I have PCOS and other issues that stop it being so easy)
At 36 you are NOT old, despite what the doctors will tell you.
You will be able to control your diabetes with low carb, don't be scared of food; ignore the food you can't eat and celebrate the cream, cheese and steak! You will lose weight quickly and that will also help with getting pregnant and being healthy.

Good luck!!
Thank you so much for your reply. I'll try to stay positive
 
Hi @ralu .. and welcome
Well my sister had her first baby when she was 39 ..
Otherwise, you have made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly ..

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

For testing, try the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter or: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free. The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I will be able to manage them
Hope this helps
Thank you so much for your reply. It gives me a lot of hope, Already lost 6 pounds and keep going. Hope my blood sugar level will drop a bit with the weight going. thank you for the info. I will look into it
 
Hi Raluca
As far as I know it is absolutely possible to get pregnant and have a healthy baby, although you will have to be closely monitored and some meds will have to change. I think I remember my doctor telling me that I would have to be on insulin in the remote possibility I got pregnant (I have PCOS and other issues that stop it being so easy)
At 36 you are NOT old, despite what the doctors will tell you.
You will be able to control your diabetes with low carb, don't be scared of food; ignore the food you can't eat and celebrate the cream, cheese and steak! You will lose weight quickly and that will also help with getting pregnant and being healthy.

Good luck!!
Thank you for your words of encouragement. I will approach a doctor as I've only seen the nurse and she gave me a lot of negatives. probably she was trying to scare me into looking weight. which I'm doing at the moment
 
@ralu

Hello Raluca and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
@ralu

Hello Raluca and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
thank you Daisy. I've logged on the Low carb program. Thank you for the info
 
Hi and welcome Ralu, im only 6 weeks into this and have lost 1 stone 3lbs in 5 weeks , the first week i was learning , well still am but it does get easier x
 
Hi all!
I just been diagnosed with type 2 . Far as I remember my mmol was 54 . At the moment they said I need to loose weight and go on the low carb diet. I'm really stressed . I cannot eat anything and keep on crying. I fear that I cannot control this disease no matter what I'm doing as my mum died of complications.
I was trying for a baby and this is how I found out I have it. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get pregnant at my age (36 years old) and have a healthy pregnancy and baby? I read all sorts of horror stories and not much positives about it. I feel I cannot wait to try for a baby as I'm getting so much older and all sorts of risks could appear.
Thank you so much.
Raluca
Don't dwell on the horror stories as these are usually spread by those who are not diabetic. Get advice from those who live with the condition, as we all know the real from the misinformation. Welcome to the forum.
 
Hi @ralu I was 37 when the little lady in my avatars arrived. Try not to stress as it affects blood sugars and fertility (easy to say I know).
Talk to the docs about your plans as best to get thoroughly checked out. Good luck.
 
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