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Newly diagnosed with type 2

Blue boy

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi everyone,

I have recently been diagnosed type 2 . And I am all over the place. Docs put me on 1000mg of metaformen. Been taking it 3weeks now and feel tired, dry mouth, pain in my left side, my anxiety is through the roof . Tingles in my fingers and down both legs from the knee cap down. Have been watching what I am eating but still feel not right. Any advice would be appreciated. I have docs on tues .
 
Have you significantly reduced your carbs and sugars?

I've tagged @daisy1 to give you the newcomers welcome information.
There is loads of useful information and do have a read around.

Welcome!
 
Hi yes reduced my sugars a lot . Typical day for me porridge 2 salad rolls, apple a coffee with sweeteners . Alpen light cereal bar. And pasta at night. ???
 
Hi yes reduced my sugars a lot . Typical day for me porridge 2 salad rolls, apple a coffee with sweeteners . Alpen light cereal bar. And pasta at night. ???

You may have reduced your sugar, but you are still eating a whole lot of carbs, and carbs are the culprits I'm afraid. Potatoes, rice, bread, pasta, and cereals (including porridge for most people) are the main culprits. We also need to be careful with milk and fruit.

What sort of advice have you received from your doctor?
 
@Blue boy

Hello and welcome to the forum Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. If you need to ask questions just go ahead and someone will try and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
That will be the reason as to why then it's still high. No been gave anything apart from medication as stated. See doc next week so should have the correct advice on what to eat. What do you suggest that's good to eat or a simple guideline ?
 
That will be the reason as to why then it's still high. No been gave anything apart from medication as stated. See doc next week so should have the correct advice on what to eat. What do you suggest that's good to eat or a simple guideline ?

If your doctor/nurse follow the usual NHS dietary advice, they will tell you to eat carbs with every meal. This is well out of date, is the same info they give to non-diabetics, and not helpful for diabetics. You may be lucky and get a doctor/nurse that understands the role of carbs for diabetics. Somehow I doubt it.

Simple guideline? Just seriously reduce the amount of or avoid bread, potatoes, pasta, rice and cereals, be careful with milk and fruit. (Berries or half an apple are best) Tinned soups are also an unwise idea. You will have to start looking at food nutrition labels on all the packeted stuff you buy and look for the "total carbohydrate" amount. You may be surprised! Ready meals and highly processed foods are also often stuffed with sugars and carbs.

Your best bet is to buy a home glucose monitor. Most of us type 2's not on insulin have to self fund these. Once you have one you can test your levels against what you have just eaten, and see for yourself what these carbs do.
 
Ok thank you very much for the advice it's very appreciated
 
Hi pal,you are in the right place.Get a cuppa and have a good look around this forum,you will soon pick up where you need to change a few things.I am a few weeks ahead of you.It's a lot to take in,and I thought I had changed to a healthy diet only to discover that I hadn't and LCHF is greatly helping me.In about 2 weeks fairly low carb and under 50g carbs a day for the last week or so I am feeling much better and my B.G is down significantly.It takes a bit of thinking about and a big change of habits but is achievable.
There is a great depth of knowledge and personal experience to learn from here,so soon you will be more relaxed about it.
Check out the threads on type 2 what have you eaten today for example.

Cheers.
 
There are loads of good things you can still have.I assume you are still digesting the news about bread,potato rice,pasta etc if you excuse the pun.But steak,lean pork,skinless boneless chicken and turkey,venison and oily fish are fine.As are eggs bacon and high meat (above 95%) sausages for breakfast.Try single cream in coffee it's better for you than milk. Yogurt's etc go full fat the low cal or fat free have more sugar!! Snacks try nuts,babybel cheese (btw cheese is most definitely in!) and many here favour pork scratchings in place of crisps.And your own bodyweight in certain above ground vegetables,surprisingly good with tons of vinaigrette (easy to make your own,just watch it doesn't get scoffed by everyone else).
I hope this helps whilst you read up.
 
That will be the reason as to why then it's still high. No been gave anything apart from medication as stated. See doc next week so should have the correct advice on what to eat. What do you suggest that's good to eat or a simple guideline ?
Hi and welcome to the forum, I'm not adding anything else, I think you have plenty to read and digest for the moment but don't be afraid to ask questions if you're stuck. We have all progressed from where you are now, it takes time to understand it all but you will
 
Welcome. Some great advice above. Where exactly is the pain in your left side? Back, flank, ribcage, chest? Hopefully your doctor will be able to diagnose it.
 
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