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<blockquote data-quote="Scardoc" data-source="post: 588331" data-attributes="member: 44692"><p>Jumping back to the original thread - more weight loss operations for T2 diabetics................</p><p> </p><p>I had the pleasure of being on holiday for the last two weeks and watched this article unfold on the good old BBC Breakfast. They did, off course, wheel in two "experts" to voice their opinion and both were singing from the same hymn sheet which was a shame, no balance. All the stats were about how much T2 diabetes is costing the NHS. All the talk was of obesity being the major factor in the rise of T2 diabetes. All the "experts" opinions were founded around the notion that no individuals are to blame and no one should have to pay for this surgery (which I think was suggested).</p><p> </p><p>Firstly, I agree that no one should pay for anything on the NHS as we all pay our NI and that's what it's there for.</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, I agree that a major factor in T2 is being overweight and unhealthy.....fat on the inside being just as big a problem.</p><p> </p><p>Thirdly, I think surgery is an appalling idea.</p><p> </p><p>For me, the "obesity epidemic" has come about due to a mixture of reasons and the principal fabric woven through them all is our modern lifestyle. Rather than saying people don't exercise enough these days, I'd say it's the sedentary lifestyle. There's a million different examples you can pick from. Our children don't have to go out to talk to their friends. Parents are less likely to let their children play out all day, build dens etc etc because of the nut jobs lurking everywhere. Are the nut jobs more common and predatory because of the internet? I think so. We have washing machines, dish washers and cars..... fuel burners instead of calorie burners. We have takeaways, fast food and convenience food. No more allotments as we have to pack the houses in. The World has changed. The examples being set by parents are awful. How many time do you see a parent pushing a push chair with their face glued to their phones? What interaction do you think that child gets at home? They probably get a screen of their own to pacify them.</p><p> </p><p>There's too much pc friendly, wishy-washy liberals around for my liking that won't apportion blame. There is no one size fits all and you can't tar everyone with the same brush but the blindingly obvious issues are there for all to see. I think exercise is an enormous benefit and not once was it mentioned on the news article about weight loss surgery. Not once was exploring every other avenue mentioned. It starts with education and the Government has to prioritise this from primary school age. It's not just about running around for an hour every day but teaching the value of a healthy balanced diet. It's no good having home economics when you use **** ingredients like powdered eggs!!</p><p> </p><p>Weight loss surgery is, for me, an attempt at a quick fix where there is none. I think they also need to make up their minds on these issues what the real problem is or where it lies. If, as they say, the main reason for T2 is being overweight then should this story not be a weight related story? As opposed to a T2 diabetic story?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scardoc, post: 588331, member: 44692"] Jumping back to the original thread - more weight loss operations for T2 diabetics................ I had the pleasure of being on holiday for the last two weeks and watched this article unfold on the good old BBC Breakfast. They did, off course, wheel in two "experts" to voice their opinion and both were singing from the same hymn sheet which was a shame, no balance. All the stats were about how much T2 diabetes is costing the NHS. All the talk was of obesity being the major factor in the rise of T2 diabetes. All the "experts" opinions were founded around the notion that no individuals are to blame and no one should have to pay for this surgery (which I think was suggested). Firstly, I agree that no one should pay for anything on the NHS as we all pay our NI and that's what it's there for. Secondly, I agree that a major factor in T2 is being overweight and unhealthy.....fat on the inside being just as big a problem. Thirdly, I think surgery is an appalling idea. For me, the "obesity epidemic" has come about due to a mixture of reasons and the principal fabric woven through them all is our modern lifestyle. Rather than saying people don't exercise enough these days, I'd say it's the sedentary lifestyle. There's a million different examples you can pick from. Our children don't have to go out to talk to their friends. Parents are less likely to let their children play out all day, build dens etc etc because of the nut jobs lurking everywhere. Are the nut jobs more common and predatory because of the internet? I think so. We have washing machines, dish washers and cars..... fuel burners instead of calorie burners. We have takeaways, fast food and convenience food. No more allotments as we have to pack the houses in. The World has changed. The examples being set by parents are awful. How many time do you see a parent pushing a push chair with their face glued to their phones? What interaction do you think that child gets at home? They probably get a screen of their own to pacify them. There's too much pc friendly, wishy-washy liberals around for my liking that won't apportion blame. There is no one size fits all and you can't tar everyone with the same brush but the blindingly obvious issues are there for all to see. I think exercise is an enormous benefit and not once was it mentioned on the news article about weight loss surgery. Not once was exploring every other avenue mentioned. It starts with education and the Government has to prioritise this from primary school age. It's not just about running around for an hour every day but teaching the value of a healthy balanced diet. It's no good having home economics when you use **** ingredients like powdered eggs!! Weight loss surgery is, for me, an attempt at a quick fix where there is none. I think they also need to make up their minds on these issues what the real problem is or where it lies. If, as they say, the main reason for T2 is being overweight then should this story not be a weight related story? As opposed to a T2 diabetic story? [/QUOTE]
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