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<blockquote data-quote="StewieG" data-source="post: 376630" data-attributes="member: 68574"><p>Is t2dm anyones fault?</p><p>Does being fat cause diabetes or does being predisposed to being diabetic make it more likely you will be fat?</p><p></p><p>to KarinB - can i send my sympathies - having a son recently diagnosed with T1 is hard, particularly if you are unwell yourself. The acute nature of T1 makes it difficult to deal with. The fact that its started early and will be a life long daily grind is upsetting. T2s have it easy in comparison. The good news is I know loads of T1s who have full lives and have achieved great things - though most go through bad patches. Having loving relatives and friends helps and i'm sure you must be a comfort to him.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately im not sure i can agree that developing T2 is always the persons fault - if thats what you mean? (perhaps ive misunderstood?) The situation is so complex. There is a large genetic component to T2. The insulin resistance that is the key problem in T2 is perhaps what makes people more hungry and therefore they eat more and gain weight leading to a destructive positive feedback loop. there is a lot of evidence that high fructose corn syrup a large component of modern diets is a culprit in causing problems with insulin sensitivity and no one is choosing to eat this its being done to us - its added to all sorts of food stuffs to make them sweeter cheaply.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong - poor dietary choices, comfort eating, sedentary lifestyle, high alcohol intake have a part to play but who actually develops T2DM and when may be more genetic that just the amount of calories one has eaten in a lifetime. Indeed there may be 2 types of obesity - the just eats too much like Greg Wallace -who apparently eats out at a restaurant every night and when he cut back lost weight and the intrinsically overweight that really just cant loose weight.</p><p></p><p>I find it strange that smokers in some quarters are treated so lightly yet overweight people are the butt of jokes and its always assumed its their fault rather than socioeconomic, behavioural and genetic factors. even alcoholics seem to be immune to criticism when was the last time you heard a joke about an alcoholic - why are they less to blame than obese people?</p><p></p><p>As TheLovelyTarotLady says reprogram might be right - some overweight people might be fighting as hard as drug addicts to kick the habit with their own bodies making it harder for them.</p><p></p><p>Im hoping the trials of GLP1 drugs in obese non diabetics have successful outcomes, weight watchers isnt enough for everyone and the drugs we have had so far havent helped real numbers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StewieG, post: 376630, member: 68574"] Is t2dm anyones fault? Does being fat cause diabetes or does being predisposed to being diabetic make it more likely you will be fat? to KarinB - can i send my sympathies - having a son recently diagnosed with T1 is hard, particularly if you are unwell yourself. The acute nature of T1 makes it difficult to deal with. The fact that its started early and will be a life long daily grind is upsetting. T2s have it easy in comparison. The good news is I know loads of T1s who have full lives and have achieved great things - though most go through bad patches. Having loving relatives and friends helps and i'm sure you must be a comfort to him. Unfortunately im not sure i can agree that developing T2 is always the persons fault - if thats what you mean? (perhaps ive misunderstood?) The situation is so complex. There is a large genetic component to T2. The insulin resistance that is the key problem in T2 is perhaps what makes people more hungry and therefore they eat more and gain weight leading to a destructive positive feedback loop. there is a lot of evidence that high fructose corn syrup a large component of modern diets is a culprit in causing problems with insulin sensitivity and no one is choosing to eat this its being done to us - its added to all sorts of food stuffs to make them sweeter cheaply. Don't get me wrong - poor dietary choices, comfort eating, sedentary lifestyle, high alcohol intake have a part to play but who actually develops T2DM and when may be more genetic that just the amount of calories one has eaten in a lifetime. Indeed there may be 2 types of obesity - the just eats too much like Greg Wallace -who apparently eats out at a restaurant every night and when he cut back lost weight and the intrinsically overweight that really just cant loose weight. I find it strange that smokers in some quarters are treated so lightly yet overweight people are the butt of jokes and its always assumed its their fault rather than socioeconomic, behavioural and genetic factors. even alcoholics seem to be immune to criticism when was the last time you heard a joke about an alcoholic - why are they less to blame than obese people? As TheLovelyTarotLady says reprogram might be right - some overweight people might be fighting as hard as drug addicts to kick the habit with their own bodies making it harder for them. Im hoping the trials of GLP1 drugs in obese non diabetics have successful outcomes, weight watchers isnt enough for everyone and the drugs we have had so far havent helped real numbers. [/QUOTE]
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