Non-diabetic fasting level?

[Captain Crunch]

My fasting blood glucose is generally high 4s to low 5s mmol/l. The non-diabetic range is considered to be 3.9 to 5.4 (this varies by source though). It's got me wondering what a typical non-diabetic value is. I'm guessing around 4.5. Any thoughts?

 

[Member496333]

I think 4.5-5.0 is a ballpark fasting baseline for most metabolically healthy people (a rare thing among westerners). Perhaps paradoxically, some ketogenic eaters and carnivores actually experience a slightly higher baseline, but it will typically remain almost flatlined throughout the day. Calm seas instead of choppy waters, if you will.

I believe that, for a type 2, fasting insulin is probably a more important measure of metabolic status. Just a shame we can't test it at home.

 

[Tophat1900]

Dr.Bernstein has said that whenever tests are done for trials involving non-diabetic and diabetic people for comparisons, the non-diabetic (for a healthy person, but can't remember what age group he was referring to) nearly always comes back at 4.6.... so yeah, you were really right on target I think @Captain Crunch

 

[KK123]

Well I asked various Consultants this when I was first diagnosed and they all said 4.4....to be exact.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Thanks for your thoughts folks.

Not too far out with my 4.5 then .

I wish I was self-monitoring in my non-diabetic days so I could compare. Of course, I'd then have been aware of rising blood glucose and could have taken steps to avoid where I am now . Hindsight's a wonderful thing.

 

[Member496333]

Thanks for your thoughts folks.

Not too far out with my 4.5 then .

I wish I was self-monitoring in my non-diabetic days so I could compare. Of course, I'd then have been aware of rising blood glucose and could have taken steps to avoid where I am now . Hindsight's a wonderful thing.

Unfortunately it's typical for hyperinsulinemia to predate any signs of diabetes by years or even decades, so you'll have been well on your way to metabolic derangement long before the symptoms showed up in your blood as elevated glucose. It's just a shame the healthcare system doesn't acknowledge this. If we profiled insulin at regular intervals instead of, say, obsessing over meaningless cholesterol numbers, then we could prevent a lot of diabetes from ever getting a foot in the door. But yes, the sooner the better anyway.

 

[NéjiSaïdi]

My fasting blood glucose is generally high 4s to low 5s mmol/l. The non-diabetic range is considered to be 3.9 to 5.4 (this varies by source though). It's got me wondering what a typical non-diabetic value is. I'm guessing around 4.5. Any thoughts?

The normal range for a non-diabetic is between 3.88 mmol/l (70 mg/dl) and 6.94 mmol/l (125 mg/dl). An optimal reading would be below 5 mmol/l (90 mg/dl). The best range all day long would be around 5.55 mmol/l (100 mg/dl). This range if kept on a regular basis will ward off inflammation, glycation and oxidation and will positively impact blood pressure and the lipid profile, in particular, and on the general health.