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Nothing seems to work!

theresajayne

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Ok i have had Type 2 for many a years, and now i have lost some weight my regular blood sugar level has come down from the original 25 to 12-15,

But I have tried nearly everything and nothing affects the blood levels,

Metformin,
Gliclazide,
Byetta
Sitagliptin
Victosa
Novorapid
Levemir
Insuman Basal.

I ended up taking 60 units of Insuman Daily, and with the insuman my blood in the morning was 18, and without taking any insuman it was also 12-18
so my doctor has me on Gliclazide and at the moment 4x30 tablets in the evening and the morning level is 12+
admittedly during the night i am sweating a lot which may suggest a hypo, but nothing seems to work except the Novorapid.
 
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Hi and welcome @theresajayne
I will tag @daisy1 for her helpful information pack.
I wonder if looking at diet will help, particularly reducing carbs. Might be worth keeping a food diary and recording blood levels before food and 2 hours after. This will show you how a meal affects you. Also exercise might help.
 
Hi and welcome @theresajayne
I will tag @daisy1 for her helpful information pack.
I wonder if looking at diet will help, particularly reducing carbs. Might be worth keeping a food diary and recording blood levels before food and 2 hours after. This will show you how a meal affects you. Also exercise might help.

Well the doctor will not give me the test strips to do more than once a day,

And diet - If i do not eat anything at all my Blood sugar goes up to Hi (>32)

it appears if i eat all the time small things - like popcorn or other small items it stays around 15

Usually its Bran flakes for breakfast, then lunch about 1pm usually nothing or if something a sandwich, then evening may be nothing or maybe some popcorn whilst on the computer.
 
Well the doctor will not give me the test strips to do more than once a day,

And diet - If i do not eat anything at all my Blood sugar goes up to Hi (>32)

it appears if i eat all the time small things - like popcorn or other small items it stays around 15

Usually its Bran flakes for breakfast, then lunch about 1pm usually nothing or if something a sandwich, then evening may be nothing or maybe some popcorn whilst on the computer.

Hello, I have changed and cut out all carbs as I found even the so called healthy option like Shredded Wheat made my sugars go sky high, a sandwich would do the same. Popcorn which I love does the same. I now follow a LCHF diet and have eggs for breakfast maybe with a slice of bacon or ham, a salad with chicken for lunch and a similar evening meal possibly a chili but with no carbs so no rice or breads or pastas etc, they are my danger zone. From a BG reading of 17.something 7 or 8 weeks ago I am now consistently between 7 and 10 ( still high but getting there) and have lost over half a stone. I do at least 30 minutes power walking on my treadmill and have no sweets or cakes etc. It hasn't been as difficult as I thought it would as I don't feel hungry and snacking is a thing of the past. There loads and loads of information here about diet etc that will help. More than anything regular testing gave me the information I needed to identify which foods made me spike.
I am lucky in that I can test as much as I like I know not everyone has the resource to do this but for me it has been the key.
Good luck and welcome! There's loads of people here to help. xx
 
Well the doctor will not give me the test strips to do more than once a day,

And diet - If i do not eat anything at all my Blood sugar goes up to Hi (>32)

it appears if i eat all the time small things - like popcorn or other small items it stays around 15

Usually its Bran flakes for breakfast, then lunch about 1pm usually nothing or if something a sandwich, then evening may be nothing or maybe some popcorn whilst on the computer.

If you seriously want to try to tackle your diabetes I would suggest either buying extra strips for your meter or self funding a meter and cheaper test strips such as the SDcodefree as the test strips about £7 for 50 or less if bought in bulk.

I couldn't manage any cereals for breakfast as discovered using a meter. Normally I have either scrambled eggs and mushrooms or fried breakfast. Lunch is normally salad and evening meal varies. When first diagnosed I had to cut out bread, pasta, rice etc, though I can manage some now. You may well find that cutting the carbs that your body can't cope with will help with weight loss. I also started walking and I'm sure that helped me. I'm now walking about 7 miles a day but started with attempting to walk for 30 mins a day.
 
Well the doctor will not give me the test strips to do more than once a day,

And diet - If i do not eat anything at all my Blood sugar goes up to Hi (>32)

it appears if i eat all the time small things - like popcorn or other small items it stays around 15

Usually its Bran flakes for breakfast, then lunch about 1pm usually nothing or if something a sandwich, then evening may be nothing or maybe some popcorn whilst on the computer.

If i ate mainly carbs my blood glucose would be very high too, but since eating very low carb my blood glucose has dropped to non diabetic levels. It isn't easy, but it is much more nutritious than a diet of cereals, bread and popcorn - and many low carbers find they can reduce their medication.
 
I was wondering where your fat and protein comes from? Where are your vegetables? Fat and protei. both help slow the glucose response. That is why low carb higher healthy fats work for many of us. I could never eat cereal, bread and popcorn. All carbs raise bs fastest and your diet is very high carb. Add to that low protein and fat. You will spike even higher and faster. Looks like it's time to reconsider a diet change. I eat guacamole and celery for BF or turkey slices on a lettuce wrap. Lunch and dinner are either salads or lettuce wraps topped with some protein and various dressings. Either olive oil with sea salt and herbs or a mayo based dressing. Snacks are a few nuts or olives.
 
@theresajayne

Hello and welcome to the forum :) To add to all the excellent answers you have received so far, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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