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Nutella,to spread on not to spread?

Doug

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Greetings one and all,
I wonder if anyone can tell me if it is fine to use Nutella as a spread on wholemeal bread. If not, any advice on what I can use?
Thanks for your help and happy readings. :D
 
Hi Doug,
Very high in sugar. 20gms an average serving. Have some here for other people.
How about marmite or there are some good whole fruit jams in Health Food shops that do not have such a high sugar content. A lot depends on how you manage your diet. I know some forum members eat peanut and almond butter.
I am sure you will get more answers.
Regards, Catherine.
 
Hello Catherine,
thanks for the information. As a "newbe", I am wide open to advice from those who have been there and done it so to speak. I take 2 metformin tablets a day and seem to be coping well with it. The only thing is, I feel peckish and am trying to widen the range of food I can take in between meals.
Good luck and happy readings.
Doug.
 
I now eat very little bread, about one slice per day. Unsalted butter thickly spread or a good quality olive oil in a bowl to use as a dip or a good quality balsamic vinegar to treat in the same manner. Handful of olives or some picked gherkins/dill cucumber as an accompanying side dish.
 
Well Doug the wholemeal bread may or may not raise your blood sugars. I eat Burgen and soya linseed. There are other breads that people may advise you on. We are all different and what impacts on my blood sugar may not impact on yours. The secret in the early stages is to test before you eat and then test two afters afterwards. Those two readings should be the same for good control. Afew points out, say, 5.4 and 5.6 is O.K. It is when there is a vast difference from 5.4 to 8.6 then you know that the food you have just eaten is not for you.
Have you got a meter and test strips?
Catherine.
 
Doug try this on low carb bread (you get this from the low carb megastore or you could bake Fergus's bread, I believe this bread will also hit the shops sometime soon?)

100 ml cream
3 tbsp cocoa power
2 tsp sweetener or more, depends on your taste
bit of cinnamon powder
50 g melted butter
vanilla essence or extract
40 g ground almonds or ground hazelnuts (you can dry fry the hazelnuts so that they are slightly brown)
Mix it all together, add more cream or butter if you like

cool in the fridge

Tell do you test your bg, what is your hb1ac?

All the best

Karen
 
Hello all,
thanks for the info...love the look of the bread Karen and will give it a go. At the moment, I only test my urine twice daily at various times. I will be seeing my diabetic nurse next week for "another armful" to be taken. My initial readings were quite high...27.4 with a cholestrial level of 9. They have dropped dramatically over the last fortnight so am much relieved!
The tablets (Metformin and Simvastatin) seem to be working so hopefully further good news next week. I am not over weight and my B.M.I. is 23.4 so am fortunate I don't have that to battle with. My urine level was above 2% and is now down to between 0.1% to 1% depending on time of day, what I have eaten etc. I keep a full record of everything I eat and drink...that's not difficult as I have cut out alcohol for a while and just drink tea with skimmed milk and water.
I was at our surgery last Wednesday and had over an hours chat with the Dietician. Came away very reassured and armed with plenty of leaflets. She explained that it will take time for everything to settle down so not to get uptight.
So I will carry on fine tweeking as I go. Anyway, good luck and happy readings.
Doug.
 
Doug, That meter and testing strips are a must. Some Dr's are refusing to issue them but some are O. K. about it. The urine sticks don't tell you much about what is going on. It might be a good idea to treat yourself to one. A pharmacist would be a good one to ask about the price of the test strips. There are usually ten strips with a new meter and the strips are usually about £25 for fifty. If your Doc agrees to provide them you can tell him the make you require and if he doesn't it is still something you are going to need. There is no way you are going to be able to know what to eat and what not to eat without testing your blood sugar response. It is all trial and error to begin with.
As it gets easier you don't need to test so often.
Good luck and keep asking questions, we are here to help.
Regards, Catherine.
 
Doug
Urine testing is useless.
Each of us has what's called a Renal threshold That's the concentration of glucose in the blood which is high enough to cause it to be lost through the kidneys( normally the kidneys recover glucose from the urine.). This is individual, but tends to be about 10.
Thus if you have a bg of 9, no glucose is lost through your kidneys.And your BG is still over 7, which is the tipping point for starting comlications. Having passed your kidneys, the glucose sits in your baldder until you empty it. so by the time you do, the glucose might have been accumulating for several hours. If you find glucose, you know that since your last pee, your blood glucose has exceeded your renal threshold, whatever it might be. It tells you nothing about your control.
In other words it's useless.
Imagime a dam holding back water. A little spills over the top, but that doesn't tell you anything about how much was held back.
If your GP doesn't know this, print a copy of this explanation for him/her. The only good thing about urine testing is IT'S CHEAP
 
You should blindfold your diabetes nurse and tell her to drive down the motorway. That's basically what she's doing to you!

I don't know which would be worse, the nutella or the bread. I have a bad reaction to wheat, I can only eat small amounts of wholemeal bread in the evening. But I can eat oatcakes even at breakfast as long as I have two or less, and ryebread in the afternoon so long as I only have half a slice. Proper peanut and almond butter made only from the nuts and some added salt goes down a treat, much of the brand name stuff is full of added sugar and palm oil.

How did I discover all this?

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

If you can't do that you;re flying blind I'm afraid
 
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