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Has anyone just seen Dr Aseem Malhotra speaking on BBC Breakfast News on an article about calorie counting? He was clearly advocating LCHF diet and saying that the "Eat Well" plate that has been recommended for decades is nonsense! How refreshing :)
 
Yes I was amazed, at last a cardiologist speaking against the eat well plate and advocating LCHF on the BBC!
Looks like the message is finally getting through.
 
Dr Malhotra has been a hero of mine ever since he had his article in the BMJ attacked by (ahem) he who shall not be named.
 
Yes I whooped with delight when he mentioned LCHF and diabetes in the same sentence. I actually managed to scare the dog!! :D:D. Sue xx
 
Lol I watched it too, just wondered why they drag a TV GP out to go up against a heart surgeon, she is always banging on about calories. To be honest my GP has never once mentioned diet, mind you after sending me for a blood test 3 yrs ago I've never seen a GP.
 
im not on the LCHF diet but was good to see it being talked about. It may not work / be right for everyone but there are so many people here that it has helped that it should be explained to people as a possible diet.
 
Did anyone see this today? Lovely doctor talking about obesity and fats. GP would not except his findings. See if you can find it.
 
The GP seemed to be implying we are all too stupid to understand and should therefore stick to eating the stuff that is killing us.
 
In his Independent article and also in the BMJ article Dr Maholtra cites the Predimed trial.

The Med diet worked out at around 41% fat and 40% carb, which wasn't much different to the low fat arm which worked out at 44% carb and 37%. so it wasn't testing either a high fat low carb diet or a low fat high carb diet .(and actually the proportions weren't that different to those eaten before the trial). I
The Med group ate a 'Med' diet with either 'extra' olive oil or nuts.
93% of the olive oil subgroup ate >4 tablespoons of Olive oil daily (litre of oil per family,per week given free)
93% of the nut group ate at least 3 30g portions of nuts a week (15 g of walnuts, 7.5 g of hazelnuts, and 7.5 g of almonds a day given free)

Salient components of the Mediterranean diet reportedly associated with better survival include moderate consumption of ethanol (mostly from wine), low consumption of meat and meat products, and high consumption of vegetables, fruits, nuts, legumes, fish, and olive oil. Perhaps there is a synergy among the nutrient-rich foods included in the Mediterranean diet that fosters favorable changes in intermediate pathways of cardiometabolic risk, such as blood lipids, insulin sensitivity, resistance to oxidation, inflammation, and vasoreactivity.
and
The interventions were intended to improve the overall dietary pattern, but the major between-group differences involved the supplemental items. Thus, extra-virgin olive oil and nuts were probably responsible for most of the observed benefits of the Mediterranean diets. Differences were also observed for fish and legumes but not for other food groups

here (in Spanish) are the shopping lists given to participants
.http://predimed.onmedic.net/eng/Imp...TSBYINTERVENTIONGROUPS/tabid/581/Default.aspx

The diet recommendations from the paper:
The general guidelines to follow the Mediterranean diet that dietitians provided to participants included the following positive recommendations:
a) abundant use of olive oil for cooking and dressing dishes;
b) consumption of ≥ 2 daily servings of vegetables (at least one of them as fresh vegetables in a salad), discounting side dishes;
c) ≥ 2-3 daily servings of fresh fruits (including natural juices);
d) ≥ 3 weekly servings of legumes;
e) ≥ 3 weekly servings of fish or seafood (at least one serving of fatty fish);
f) ≥ 1 weekly serving of nuts or seeds;
g) select white meats (poultry without skin or rabbit) instead of red meats or processed meats (burgers, sausages);
h) cook regularly (at least twice a week) with tomato, garlic and onion adding or not other aromatic herbs, and dress vegetables, pasta, rice and other dishes with tomato, garlic and onion adding or not aromatic herbs. This sauce is made by slowly simmering the minced ingredients with abundant olive oil.

Negative recommendations are also given to eliminate or limit the consumption of cream, butter, margarine, cold meat, pate, duck, carbonated and/or sugared beverages, pastries, industrial bakery products (such as cakes, donuts, or cookies), industrial desserts (puddings, custard), French fries or potato chips, and out-of-home pre-cooked cakes and sweets.

The dietitians insisted that two main meals per day should be eaten (seated at a table, lasting more than 20 minutes). For usual drinkers, the dietitian’s advice was to use wine as the main source of alcohol (maximum 300 ml, 1-3 glasses of wine per day). If wine intake was customary, a recommendation to drink a glass of wine per day (bigger for men, 150 ml, than for women, 100 ml) during meals was given.
Ad libitum consumption was allowed for the following food items: nuts (raw and unsalted), eggs, fish (recommended for daily intake), seafood, low-fat cheese, chocolate (only black chocolate, with more than 50% cocoa), and whole-grain cereals.
Limited consumption (≤1 serving per week) was advised for cured ham, red meat (after removing all visible fat), and cured or fatty cheeses
.http://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa1200303/suppl_file/nejmoa1200303_appendix.pdf
 
In his Independent article and also in the BMJ article Dr Maholtra cites the Predimed trial.

The Med diet worked out at around 41% fat and 40% carb, which wasn't much different to the low fat arm which worked out at 44% carb and 37%. so it wasn't testing either a high fat low carb diet or a low fat high carb diet .(and actually the proportions weren't that different to those eaten before the trial). I
The Med group ate a 'Med' diet with either 'extra' olive oil or nuts.
93% of the olive oil subgroup ate >4 tablespoons of Olive oil daily (litre of oil per family,per week given free)
93% of the nut group ate at least 3 30g portions of nuts a week (15 g of walnuts, 7.5 g of hazelnuts, and 7.5 g of almonds a day given free)


and


here (in Spanish) are the shopping lists given to participants
.http://predimed.onmedic.net/eng/Imp...TSBYINTERVENTIONGROUPS/tabid/581/Default.aspx

The diet recommendations from the paper:

.http://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa1200303/suppl_file/nejmoa1200303_appendix.pdf
I see. No butter or cream and limited red meat. Well, no, that certainly isn't an LCHF diet.
 
I wonder whether his appearance will be put on Youtube? I'm trying to remember what he said - I can remember the words 'refined carbs' but am unsure whether carbs in general were mentioned. Even if he doesn't go as far as some of us would like re. LCHF, I feel things are heading in the right direction and was pleased to hear him.

The GP in the studio thought it would confuse us simple patients to be told something contrary to what we had been told by doctors, dieticians, etc. for years, as though a little confusion was more serious than ill health.

Here's an article from April in which he and Dr Tim Noakes feature. We are told that 'sugar and carbs are the obesity culprits'.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292706.php
 
Dr Malhotra has been a hero of mine ever since he had his article in the BMJ attacked by (ahem) he who shall not be named.
For a moment then I thought: "So Voldemort encourages a high carb low fat diet. That doesn't surprise me..."
 

There is an interesting comment in there.

“Before we had the obesity epidemic do you think our grandparents were counting calories?"

Mine certainly didn't

Far too busy walking everywhere, carrying the shopping home, getting the washing done in the dolly tub with the posser, cleaning the grate out, getting the coal in, scrubbing the doorstep, pushing the hand mower, tending the allotment..........

I also remember a load of spuds, bread, carrots, parsnips, gravy with flour, bread and butter puddings with lots of currants, raisins, coated in golden browned sugar, homemade custard sweetened with sugar, cakes, pastry, and even some meat occasionally.
 
In his Independent article and also in the BMJ article Dr Maholtra cites the Predimed trial.

The Med diet worked out at around 41% fat and 40% carb, which wasn't much different to the low fat arm which worked out at 44% carb and 37%. so it wasn't testing either a high fat low carb diet or a low fat high carb diet .(and actually the proportions weren't that different to those eaten before the trial). I
The Med group ate a 'Med' diet with either 'extra' olive oil or nuts.
93% of the olive oil subgroup ate >4 tablespoons of Olive oil daily (litre of oil per family,per week given free)
93% of the nut group ate at least 3 30g portions of nuts a week (15 g of walnuts, 7.5 g of hazelnuts, and 7.5 g of almonds a day given free)


and


here (in Spanish) are the shopping lists given to participants
.http://predimed.onmedic.net/eng/Imp...TSBYINTERVENTIONGROUPS/tabid/581/Default.aspx

The diet recommendations from the paper:

.http://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa1200303/suppl_file/nejmoa1200303_appendix.pdf
Interesting as the recommendations don't necessarily seem to tie in with what he was saying on the TV this morning.
 
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