Yes this was the message I also got from the GP. If you are obese / over weight then you are too stupid to be told anything more complicated than eat carbs and not fat. I found her really patronising. Not all fat people are thick!! Surely GPs have a duty of care to give their patients all the available information and discuss the options available to them.The GP seemed to be implying we are all too stupid to understand and should therefore stick to eating the stuff that is killing us.
My grandpa ate loads of sweets and was never overweight. Unfortunately he also got type 2 diabetes and was eventually on insulin.There is an interesting comment in there.
“Before we had the obesity epidemic do you think our grandparents were counting calories?"
Mine certainly didn't
Far too busy walking everywhere, carrying the shopping home, getting the washing done in the dolly tub with the posser, cleaning the grate out, getting the coal in, scrubbing the doorstep, pushing the hand mower, tending the allotment..........
I also remember a load of spuds, bread, carrots, parsnips, gravy with flour, bread and butter puddings with lots of currants, raisins, coated in golden browned sugar, homemade custard sweetened with sugar, cakes, pastry, and even some meat occasionally.
There is an interesting comment in there.
“Before we had the obesity epidemic do you think our grandparents were counting calories?"
Mine certainly didn't
Far too busy walking everywhere, carrying the shopping home, getting the washing done in the dolly tub with the posser, cleaning the grate out, getting the coal in, scrubbing the doorstep, pushing the hand mower, tending the allotment..........
I also remember a load of spuds, bread, carrots, parsnips, gravy with flour, bread and butter puddings with lots of currants, raisins, coated in golden browned sugar, homemade custard sweetened with sugar, cakes, pastry, and even some meat occasionally.
Mine weren't.Our grandparents didn't have cars... And limited TV etc and even with the puds and flour etc with their physical activity didn't have too worry about the types of food etc...
Nowadays.. I see grandparents sending kids home where I live with absolute junk food. The parents and grandparents live one road away from each other. The children get sent home to their parents with literally bags of crisps, cakes, chocolate and cans of fanta or dr pepper etc... Then at home the mother doesn't know how to cook and they get brought up on ready meals or takeaways.
Sure this is a bad example - but it is real. I know of weightwatcher groups having to give lessons on cooking to younger persons as they just don't know how to cook...
Its ok to blame the eatwell plate ... But thats from the NHS and people generally don't even get to hear about the eatwell plate until they are ill.. And their eating habits are really poor well before having to see the Nhs eatwell plate..
You are so right that was how life and diet was and especially when I was a child during WW2. Bread potatoes and other root vegetables were the staples to bulk out a meal that had very little meat it was certainly not a high fat diet then but much more high starchy carbs, kids were given sugar on bread and margarine they got more sugar on their ration books than adults yet obesity and T2 diabetes was almost unheard of so what has changed now to cause the diabetes and obesity epidemic it can't just be carbs and overweight. It is more a sedentary lifestyle now people just don't get the exercise that they did then when for a woman housework washing cooking was really hard work and they did not get a lot of restThere is an interesting comment in there.
“Before we had the obesity epidemic do you think our grandparents were counting calories?"
Mine certainly didn't
Far too busy walking everywhere, carrying the shopping home, getting the washing done in the dolly tub with the posser, cleaning the grate out, getting the coal in, scrubbing the doorstep, pushing the hand mower, tending the allotment..........
I also remember a load of spuds, bread, carrots, parsnips, gravy with flour, bread and butter puddings with lots of currants, raisins, coated in golden browned sugar, homemade custard sweetened with sugar, cakes, pastry, and even some meat occasionally.
I think diet still plays a huge part. Margarine or low fat spreads were not in their fridges. They ate butter. There was very little processed foods. Yes, they ate carbs but far fewer than nowadays. Most food was fresh and prepared from scratch. They didn't eat carby takeaways. They were also much more active. They didn't drive their kids to school.You are so right that was how life and diet was and especially when I was a child during WW2. Bread potatoes and other root vegetables were the staples to bulk out a meal that had very little meat it was certainly not a high fat diet in those days but was very much more high carb yet obesity and T2 diabetes was almost unheard of so what has changed now to cause the diabetes and obesity epidemic it can't just be carbs and overweight
You are so right that was how life and diet was and especially when I was a child during WW2. Bread potatoes and other root vegetables were the staples to bulk out a meal that had very little meat it was certainly not a high fat diet in those days but was very much more high carb yet obesity and T2 diabetes was almost unheard of so what has changed now to cause the diabetes and obesity epidemic it can't just be carbs and overweight
I think diet still plays a huge part. Margarine or low fat spreads were not in their fridges. They ate butter. There was very little processed foods. Yes, they ate carbs but far fewer than nowadays. Most food was fresh and prepared from scratch. They didn't eat carby takeaways. They were also much more active. They didn't drive their kids to school.
Butter?
Stork margarine was introduced in the 20's.
It was a staple of my nan's cooking, butter was a complete luxury.
Fewer carbs?
Less food, but the food was a majority of carbs.
My past may not be as rose tinted as it could be I guess.
I think diet still plays a huge part. Margarine or low fat spreads were not in their fridges. They ate butter. There was very little processed foods. Yes, they ate carbs but far fewer than nowadays. Most food was fresh and prepared from scratch. They didn't eat carby takeaways. They were also much more active. They didn't drive their kids to school.
There was just me and my mother during the war my father was in the army. Our butter ration was 2oz a week each so to have it with bread and jam on a Sunday was a treat
We did not have much butter when I was bringing up my children in the 60/70's it was expensive so a real luxury and we had far more margarine and yes I agree the majority of foods that we ate then was very carby lots of bread and root vegetables in the stews and casseroles to stretch the meat we had a lot of pastryand pies and the only takeaway was carby fish and chipsButter?
Stork margarine was introduced in the 20's.
It was a staple of my nan's cooking, butter was a complete luxury.
Fewer carbs?
Less food, but the food was a majority of carbs.
My past may not be as rose tinted as it could be I guess.
.............Me? I think the problems started with the introduction of farming, thousands of years ago, increased with sugar becoming widely available, with industrialisation and processed foods just adding to it.......
An interesting read is Wheat Belly by Cardiologist Dr William Davies where he pin points the start of the obesity epidemic to when wheat was introduced as a necessary element for a balanced diet. He also goes into the history of wheat, how it has been modified over the years, what our Grandparents ate is not the same strain that we now consume.
Don't know about you, I've developed a habit of looking at the content of Joe Public's supermarket shopping trolley. I can't help but feel the majority possibly have some form of vitamin deficiency with their selection of foods. Another thought I have often nurtured, if everyone ate healthily turning away from the bulking agents, fillers, addictive additions would there be a global food shortage?
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